PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[Morning in Atlas]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

[TML]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

We should be thankful that the DSCC has (so far) stayed out of this and other key Senate primary contests this election cycle. In the 2016 and 2020 election cycles, they were quick to coronate candidates in just about every key Senate primary contest, and pretty much all of their coronated candidates steamrolled their primary opponents (but most of them lost their general election contests). Had the DSCC gotten involved in this contest like it did in 2016, whichever candidate they endorsed would almost certainly be favored to win the primary right now (but could very well be underwhelming in the GE, just like their 2016 candidate here was).

[Xing]

Lamb losing support due to calling Fetterman a socialist would make my day, though I remain cautious. I’m glad that Fetterman’s campaign seems to be driving into high gear, and the fact that he’s visiting more Republican-leaning counties is a positive sign, something the Democrats should be doing regardless of circumstances. I remain skeptical that Democrats can win this race in such a bad environment, but maybe I can be convinced otherwise.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

A Fetterman vs McCormick race would be Democrats' best shot at winning this seat.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lamb losing support due to calling Fetterman a socialist would make my day, though I remain cautious. I’m glad that Fetterman’s campaign seems to be driving into high gear, and the fact that he’s visiting more Republican-leaning counties is a positive sign, something the Democrats should be doing regardless of circumstances. I remain skeptical that Democrats can win this race in such a bad environment, but maybe I can be convinced otherwise.

Lol Biden is from Philly and will campaign and Obama whom endorsed Barnes for Lt Gov will campaign for Gov and Sen of WI, GA


Biden Approvaks are near where he was at in 2020 45/50 he won a 303/235 map 50/45 and minority turnout will be overlooked we're not winning with only 82M with 2010/14 cycles it's VBM it's 65/60 M you can stop Dooming , I know you are one of the people that have an R nut map it's only April not October and hopefully it's wrong on Edat

You said Andy Beshear was gonna lose

Everyone think Biden is at 40percenr or he won 60/40 in 2020 he won 50/45 and he is currently at in IPSOS 45/50 NOT 40%

[Morning in Atlas]

Anyone who hears Conor Lamb speak and doesn't immediately assume it's a pack of lies, I don't know what to tell you.

[wbrocks67]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

JFC, just stop already. This is getting exhausting and making this thread toxic.

[Morning in Atlas]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

JFC, just stop already. This is getting exhausting and making this thread toxic.

I literally could give two sh** what any Lamb supporter is saying. This is a primary, words will be slung from all opponents.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Lol you guys are arguing about which guy will lose by 2% to the Republican candidate.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lol you guys are arguing about which guy will lose by 2% to the Republican candidate.

Lol underestimate Fetterman the last poll had him up 9 pts in Oz who. Is overrated

Biden isn't at 4o percent favs he's at 45/50 and it's only April and we won PA in 2020 when Biden won 50745 not 60/40

We will find out when Morning Consult polls AZ, NV, NH, PA in the Fall they gave the election to Biden in 2020

A two pt lead even if it's true is well within the margin of error , it's only April

[Morning in Atlas]

Lol you guys are arguing about which guy will lose by 2% to the Republican candidate.

Well, Lamb will lose by 10% at this rate.

[wbrocks67]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

JFC, just stop already. This is getting exhausting and making this thread toxic.

I literally could give two sh** what any Lamb supporter is saying. This is a primary, words will be slung from all opponents.

Pretty sure I never said who I was voting for in the primary and said I would support any of them in the general, which is more than what you have vowed.

[Morning in Atlas]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

JFC, just stop already. This is getting exhausting and making this thread toxic.

I literally could give two sh** what any Lamb supporter is saying. This is a primary, words will be slung from all opponents.

Pretty sure I never said who I was voting for in the primary and said I would support any of them in the general, which is more than what you have vowed.

Anyone hear a wind? It's whooshing at 78 mph.

[Morning in Atlas]

https://twitter.com/the_vello/status/1511833345025523713

Glad to have Elizabeth on board.

We've decided to take Lamb's protege and #1 supporter in the Senate's advice. We'll elect real Democrats and stand against the fake ones at every turn.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

This could just as easily be spun the other way:

Truly amazing stuff folks.  The Berniecrat wing does a full court press to stop Lamb, and instead of getting behind the young, hard-working, gay black progressive, they try to coronate a completely untested white guy who chased around an unarmed African-American with a shotgun and has been running one of the laziest campaigns in recent memory.

This is why the Berniecrat establishment is out of touch Democratic voters.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

This could just as easily be spun the other way:

Truly amazing stuff folks.  The Berniecrat wing does a full court press to stop Lamb, and instead of getting behind the young, hard-working, gay black progressive, they try to coronate a completely untested white guy who chased around an unarmed African-American with a shotgun and has been running one of the laziest campaigns in recent memory.

This is why the Berniecrat establishment is out of touch Democratic voters.

All this nonsense about identity politics is stupid. Frankly, no one cares and no one should care about which candidate is black or gay or whatever.
Fetterman has the best policies and should therefore be the nominee. It's as simple as that (I also think he would be the strongest candidate, especially against McCormick, but that isn't as important).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Fettetman and Trudy Valentine and hopefully Ryan gonna be out 3 easy pickups they're open seats that gives us the Senate, we have Blk candidates running in WI, GA, LA, NC and FL we don't have any clue as to their performance but all we know our Working class candidates in AZ, PA, NH are winning CCM is underperforming due to being Latina but I expect her to win

Ryan, Valentine and Fettetman are just as string as CCM, Kelly an and Hassan

I know MO is an R state but have users learned anything yet about KS and OH Sen 2018 Brown and Sinema beat expectations and CCM


MO, OH, PA, NV, NH, AZ clinches the S that's why I donate to Ryan but DeWine is gonna win just like im 2018 when Brown win, Ryan is gonna outperform out Gov candidate only if it's Whaley CRANLEY would do like Ruan

[wbrocks67]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

JFC, just stop already. This is getting exhausting and making this thread toxic.

I literally could give two sh** what any Lamb supporter is saying. This is a primary, words will be slung from all opponents.

Pretty sure I never said who I was voting for in the primary and said I would support any of them in the general, which is more than what you have vowed.

Anyone hear a wind? It's whooshing at 78 mph.

This is why Dems will lose. Because of nonsense purity tests when people don't get their way. 2016 all over again.

[Morning in Atlas]

This is why Dems will lose. Because of nonsense purity tests when people don't get their way. 2016 all over again.

You made the argument against your own position better than I could, so I just borrowed your own words. You know, the post you yourself made when Lamb and Friends were lying about Fetterman being a socialist. Or is it only "just a primary bro" when it's candidates you like doing the nastiness?

Let's be real. wbrocks doesn't want unity or a clean race. He wants silence.

[wbrocks67]

This is why Dems will lose. Because of nonsense purity tests when people don't get their way. 2016 all over again.

You made the argument against your own position better than I could, so I just borrowed your own words. You know, the post you yourself made when Lamb and Friends were lying about Fetterman being a socialist. Or is it only "just a primary bro" when it's candidates you like doing the nastiness?

Let's be real. wbrocks doesn't want unity or a clean race. He wants silence.

You're insanely putting words in my mouth now. I said I would vote for whoever the nominee is in November, how is that not unity? YOU are literally the one who has not said if you would do the same, which leads me to believe you really don't care about your own priorities in this race since you'd rather let an R win then.

[Morning in Atlas]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

This could just as easily be spun the other way:

Truly amazing stuff folks.  The Berniecrat wing does a full court press to stop Lamb, and instead of getting behind the young, hard-working, gay black progressive, they try to coronate a completely untested white guy who chased around an unarmed African-American with a shotgun and has been running one of the laziest campaigns in recent memory.

This is why the Berniecrat establishment is out of touch Democratic voters.

The difference here is that your candidate is struggling to break away from that young, hard-working gay black progressive.

[wbrocks67]

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

This could just as easily be spun the other way:

Truly amazing stuff folks.  The Berniecrat wing does a full court press to stop Lamb, and instead of getting behind the young, hard-working, gay black progressive, they try to coronate a completely untested white guy who chased around an unarmed African-American with a shotgun and has been running one of the laziest campaigns in recent memory.

This is why the Berniecrat establishment is out of touch Democratic voters.

The difference here is that your candidate is struggling to break away from that young, hard-working gay black progressive.

Wait I just realized that you don't even like in PA, correct? So you're not even voting here?

[Morning in Atlas]

Wait I just realized that you don't even like in PA, correct? So you're not even voting here?

Used to. Have friends and family in PA. Voted for Fetterman in 2016 and he's probably the single politician I align with the most.

This is why Dems will lose. Because of nonsense purity tests when people don't get their way. 2016 all over again.

You made the argument against your own position better than I could, so I just borrowed your own words. You know, the post you yourself made when Lamb and Friends were lying about Fetterman being a socialist. Or is it only "just a primary bro" when it's candidates you like doing the nastiness?

Let's be real. wbrocks doesn't want unity or a clean race. He wants silence.

You're insanely putting words in my mouth now. I said I would vote for whoever the nominee is in November, how is that not unity? YOU are literally the one who has not said if you would do the same, which leads me to believe you really don't care about your own priorities in this race since you'd rather let an R win then.

Again, forgive me if I don't trust the guy who just called massive spending on government programs "socialism" to support things like Build Back Better when it comes up again. Forgive me if I don't trust the guy being bankrolled by Big Pharma to support a public option. Especially after seeing my Congressclowns over here sell us out for a few thousand dollars in donations.

I've made my stances on whether I'd vote for Lamb in the general very clear. It's the answer you expect - I consider policy much more than party affiliation and I'm tired of voting for sh*tty "Democrats" who vote like Republicans and use fear to dodge accountability. I won't even vote for my own Congressclowns because of marijuana and minimum wage reform!

Even then, party unity is much deeper than that. There's a clear difference between, say, highlighting the black jogger story and calling Fetterman a "self-described socialist". One is a hard-hitting truth. The other is a blatant lie that feeds into GOP attacks. If Malcolm Kenyatta can run a hard-hitting campaign against Fetterman without making things up, Lamb can too.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Wait I just realized that you don't even like in PA, correct? So you're not even voting here?

Used to. Have friends and family in PA. Voted for Fetterman in 2016 and he's probably the single politician I align with the most.

This is why Dems will lose. Because of nonsense purity tests when people don't get their way. 2016 all over again.

You made the argument against your own position better than I could, so I just borrowed your own words. You know, the post you yourself made when Lamb and Friends were lying about Fetterman being a socialist. Or is it only "just a primary bro" when it's candidates you like doing the nastiness?

Let's be real. wbrocks doesn't want unity or a clean race. He wants silence.

You're insanely putting words in my mouth now. I said I would vote for whoever the nominee is in November, how is that not unity? YOU are literally the one who has not said if you would do the same, which leads me to believe you really don't care about your own priorities in this race since you'd rather let an R win then.

Again, forgive me if I don't trust the guy who just called massive spending on government programs "socialism" to support things like Build Back Better when it comes up again. Forgive me if I don't trust the guy being bankrolled by Big Pharma to support a public option. Especially after seeing my Congressclowns over here sell us out for a few thousand dollars in donations.

I've made my stances on whether I'd vote for Lamb in the general very clear. It's the answer you expect - I consider policy much more than party affiliation and I'm tired of voting for sh*tty "Democrats" who vote like Republicans and use fear to dodge accountability. I won't even vote for my own Congressclowns because of marijuana and minimum wage reform!

Even then, party unity is much deeper than that. There's a clear difference between, say, highlighting the black jogger story and calling Fetterman a "self-described socialist". One is a hard-hitting truth. The other is a blatant lie that feeds into GOP attacks. If Malcolm Kenyatta can run a hard-hitting campaign against Fetterman without making things up, Lamb can too.

This from the guy who is always calling the Democratic establishment “Blue MAGA” and claiming it would rather let Republicans win than back someone from another wing of the party

Truly amazing stuff folks. The Democrat establishment does a full court press to stop Fetterman, and instead of getting behind the hard-working, gay black progressive grinder, they try to coronate the whitest, most unseasoned chicken ass politician since Kasich.

This is why the Democrat Party establishment is out of touch with its voters.

This could just as easily be spun the other way:

Truly amazing stuff folks.  The Berniecrat wing does a full court press to stop Lamb, and instead of getting behind the young, hard-working, gay black progressive, they try to coronate a completely untested white guy who chased around an unarmed African-American with a shotgun and has been running one of the laziest campaigns in recent memory.

This is why the Berniecrat establishment is out of touch Democratic voters.

The difference here is that your candidate is struggling to break away from that young, hard-working gay black progressive.

“Your candidate”   I’ve been extremely consistent about the fact that I’d far prefer Kenyatta to Lamb.  However, Lamb has a better chance of saving us from the dumpster fire that is Fetterman’s candidacy.  And I would’ve far preferred Cartwright to any of the three. 

Also, Lamb has had far better fundraising, institutional support, etc than Kenyatta.  IIRC most polling has shown Lamb well ahead of Kenyatta who remains stuck in mid-to-low single digits.  You’re objectively wrong about this.

Finally, even if your deflection were true, my point would still stand.  You can stick your head in the sand if you want, but your initial post wasn’t the winning line of attack you seem to think it is and is just as easy to apply to Fetterman supporters. 

[MT Treasurer]

Lol you guys are arguing about which guy will lose by 2% to the Republican candidate.

2% is a pretty generous estimate at this point.