PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[wbrocks67]

I doubt he's lying since it's coming out tomorrow, but umichvoter on Twitter got access to the Suffolk poll out tomorrow morning.

Fetterman 46
Oz 40

Was Fetterman 46-37 in June. Also has Shapiro 48-Mastriano 37, so about the same amount decided in both races (85-86%) and Fetterman only running 2% behind Shapiro's vote share which is not shabby.

[MT Treasurer]

LMAO, apparently scamming millions of Americans is perfectly okay but as soon as some stray dog isn’t tested perfectly you vote third party. Once again showing the American obsession with dogs.

I know you’re trying to be edgy (emphasis on trying), but if you believe someone who is capable of inflicting this kind of pain/torture on sentient beings who never did any harm to him would hesitate (for non-law-enforcement-related reasons) to pull the trigger when confronted with actual human lives, you’re greatly mistaken. This may seem like a cliché to some, but things like that really are a giveaway.

If this story is true, it would confirm that Mehmet Oz is a dangerous psychopath — people vote for dangerous psychopaths all the time, yes, but only those who are good at hiding it. No one wants to know they’re voting for a psychopath.

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1577040278560571392

[It’s so Joever]

LMAO, apparently scamming millions of Americans is perfectly okay but as soon as some stray dog isn’t tested perfectly you vote third party. Once again showing the American obsession with dogs.

I know you’re trying to be edgy (emphasis on trying), but if you believe someone who is capable of inflicting this kind of pain/torture on sentient beings who never did any harm to him would hesitate (for non-law-enforcement-related reasons) to pull the trigger when confronted with actual human lives, you’re greatly mistaken. This may seem like a cliché to some, but things like that really are a giveaway.

If this story is true, it would confirm that Mehmet Oz is a dangerous psychopath — people vote for dangerous psychopaths all the time, yes, but only those who are good at hiding it. No one wants to know they’re voting for a psychopath.

Pigs and rats are intelligent as well. Would you feel the same way if it were one of those?

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1577040278560571392

Philadelphia/Wilmington NPR is also confirming it.

https://twitter.com/billy_penn/status/1577044010815967234?s=20&t=6gLId2AL2PB...

[MT Treasurer]

LMAO, apparently scamming millions of Americans is perfectly okay but as soon as some stray dog isn’t tested perfectly you vote third party. Once again showing the American obsession with dogs.

I know you’re trying to be edgy (emphasis on trying), but if you believe someone who is capable of inflicting this kind of pain/torture on sentient beings who never did any harm to him would hesitate (for non-law-enforcement-related reasons) to pull the trigger when confronted with actual human lives, you’re greatly mistaken. This may seem like a cliché to some, but things like that really are a giveaway.

If this story is true, it would confirm that Mehmet Oz is a dangerous psychopath — people vote for dangerous psychopaths all the time, yes, but only those who are good at hiding it. No one wants to know they’re voting for a psychopath.

Pigs and rats are intelligent as well. Would you feel the same way if it were one of those?

Yes, I would. I don’t deny that I’d probably feel more strongly about pigs than rats, but it would be a red line either way.

[It’s so Joever]

LMAO, apparently scamming millions of Americans is perfectly okay but as soon as some stray dog isn’t tested perfectly you vote third party. Once again showing the American obsession with dogs.

I know you’re trying to be edgy (emphasis on trying), but if you believe someone who is capable of inflicting this kind of pain/torture on sentient beings who never did any harm to him would hesitate (for non-law-enforcement-related reasons) to pull the trigger when confronted with actual human lives, you’re greatly mistaken. This may seem like a cliché to some, but things like that really are a giveaway.

If this story is true, it would confirm that Mehmet Oz is a dangerous psychopath — people vote for dangerous psychopaths all the time, yes, but only those who are good at hiding it. No one wants to know they’re voting for a psychopath.

Pigs and rats are intelligent as well. Would you feel the same way if it were one of those?

Yes, I would.

Okay, but what if it is for medical reasons? Like there is a clear benefit for this type of research…and it’s not like they are humans. If we can justify what we do in the meat industry now…we can justify this surely.

[kwabbit]

LMAO, apparently scamming millions of Americans is perfectly okay but as soon as some stray dog isn’t tested perfectly you vote third party. Once again showing the American obsession with dogs.

I know you’re trying to be edgy (emphasis on trying), but if you believe someone who is capable of inflicting this kind of pain/torture on sentient beings who never did any harm to him would hesitate (for non-law-enforcement-related reasons) to pull the trigger when confronted with actual human lives, you’re greatly mistaken. This may seem like a cliché to some, but things like that really are a giveaway.

If this story is true, it would confirm that Mehmet Oz is a dangerous psychopath — people vote for dangerous psychopaths all the time, yes, but only those who are good at hiding it. No one wants to know they’re voting for a psychopath.

Pigs and rats are intelligent as well. Would you feel the same way if it were one of those?

Yes, I would.

Okay, but what if it is for medical reasons? Like there is a clear benefit for this type of research…and it’s not like they are humans. If we can justify what we do in the meat industry now…we can justify this surely.

It was for medical reasons. It’s not like Dr Oz was killing dogs for fun. He was always going to be killing dogs as part of what was legitimate research. The problem was that he and his team either didn’t give the dogs pain killers or let them linger instead of putting them out of their misery.

[MT Treasurer]

Okay, but what if it is for medical reasons? Like there is a clear benefit for this type of research…and it’s not like they are humans. If we can justify what we do in the meat industry now…we can justify this surely.

Let’s take this to PMs if you’re actually interested in having this conversation, but neither can be justified. "But you eat meat, right?" - Fair objection, but no.

[wbrocks67]

Interested to see the favorability #s in Suffolk. The June poll had Fetterman at 45/27 and Oz at 28/50.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Still waiting for reputable outlets to confirm this, but if this is true, it would be one of very few things that would actually make me vote third party if I lived in PA.

I wonder if Oz will be able to avoid major scrutiny over these allegations. He might be able to say that his subordinates carried out the euthanasia and that he wasn't responsible for the day to day suffering, but a lot of these descriptions sound terrible and not defensible.  It doesn't seem to be major news yet, even though it's been out for a few weeks. Why was he using dogs in the first place? Pigs are the most similar and no one really cares if a pig isn't treated well.

This reads almost as ghoulish as the story itself. Also, please speak for yourself on this.

LMAO, apparently scamming millions of Americans is perfectly okay but as soon as some stray dog isn’t tested perfectly you vote third party. Once again showing the American obsession with dogs.

And that's exactly why this could be a conversation-changer for Fetterman.

And speaking for myself, I am personally as disgusted at the pigs suffering and dying as much as the dogs. But I'm unique in my love of piggies.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

I can’t believe Dr. Oz actually killed puppies…

If they wrote this into a TV show it’d be panned as unrealistic

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Fetterman is running with it, so I assume they believe it to be legitimate or else I'd imagine they wouldn't touch it. They stayed away when it was just Twitter rumors.

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1577010449811267585

I just saw this story immediately after posting in the NV thread that "Any advertising dollars Dems spend over the next month that doesn't talk about abortion could be much better spent talking about abortion."

uh.....

I'll allow an exception for this.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

SnowLabrador: "This will probably help Dr. Oz. People think there is a clear benefit from medical research. I wouldn't be surprised if this would help him in the polls."

[Progressive Pessimist]

SnowLabrador: "This will probably help Dr. Oz. People think there is a clear benefit from medical research. I wouldn't be surprised if this would help him in the polls."

If it was just rats, he might have a point. But dogs too?

[soundchaser]

The combination of this thread the GA-SEN title right below it is *chef’s kiss*

[GeorgiaModerate]

The combination of this thread the GA-SEN title right below it is *chef’s kiss*

If this thread didn't already have a great title, I'd seriously consider changing it to "I don't love puppies".

[Holmes]

If this is real and the major news outlets pick up on it, that would be very, very bad for Oz.

[Ferguson97]

Hershel Walker paid for an abortion.

Dr. Oz tortures puppies for kicks.

Jesus Christ, what's next? Adam Laxalt shot a man in Reno just to watch him die?

[Schiff for Senate]

Fetterman is running with it, so I assume they believe it to be legitimate or else I'd imagine they wouldn't touch it. They stayed away when it was just Twitter rumors.

https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1577010449811267585

Politics aside, killing puppies is just absolutely despicable, and I think people all over the political spectrum can agree on that. Oz is a sick man for doing this (though more details, and a more detailed explanation, would be appreciated) and should be charged appropriately.

[Schiff for Senate]

Yeah, I looked at some of the article, and this is just...horrible. Truly outrageous and sickening, and anybody who owns a dog (and I suspect enough Pennsylvania Republicans do), or even cares remotely about them, should feel the same way. Oz is a horrible man, and there should be criminal charges (this apparently did violate the Animal Welfare Act, after all).

[kyc0705]

there are four critical rules of running for office that dr. oz seems to have forgotten:

1. don't be a carpetbagger
2. don't have a long history of publicly saying bizarre nonsense in which your own words can be regularly used against you
3. don't make it obvious that you haven't been in a grocery store in years
4. don't torture and kill 300 dogs

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Hershel Walker paid for an abortion.

Dr. Oz tortures puppies for kicks.

Jesus Christ, what's next? Adam Laxalt shot a man in Reno just to watch him die?

BREAKING: Adam Laxalt LIKES walnuts in his brownies. 

[Ferguson97]

Hershel Walker paid for an abortion.

Dr. Oz tortures puppies for kicks.

Jesus Christ, what's next? Adam Laxalt shot a man in Reno just to watch him die?

BREAKING: Adam Laxalt LIKES walnuts in his brownies. 

Smh the scandals are supposed to make the candidates look bad

[kyc0705]

Hershel Walker paid for an abortion.

Dr. Oz tortures puppies for kicks.

Jesus Christ, what's next? Adam Laxalt shot a man in Reno just to watch him die?

BREAKING: Adam Laxalt LIKES walnuts in his brownies. 

Hearing unconfirmed reports that JD Vance bites into all of the Kit Kats at once without pulling them apart first