PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Oz - a doctor - now full out mocking someone who had a stroke 2.5 months ago. Very becoming for "Pennsylvania's doctor"!

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1554607634468278275

Okay, now hitting Fetterman on sending tweets instead of campaigning.  It may not be the real picture -- campaign staff exists for a reason -- but this is a strategy that has at least some teeth. 

[wbrocks67]

Oz - a doctor - now full out mocking someone who had a stroke 2.5 months ago. Very becoming for "Pennsylvania's doctor"!

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1554607634468278275

Okay, now hitting Fetterman on sending tweets instead of campaigning.  It may not be the real picture -- campaign staff exists for a reason -- but this is a strategy that has at least some teeth. 

I don't really see it that way though. If Fetterman was fine and doing this, that's one thing. You could say, well yeah he's just being lazy and should be out there campaigning when he's perfectly fine to. But the man is still recovering and slowly getting back out there. Again, I don't see how coming after someone for recovering from a medical incident is a winning strategy whatsoever. Not just that, but the video makes fun of Fetterman's speech and his expressions. That's gross.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Oz - a doctor - now full out mocking someone who had a stroke 2.5 months ago. Very becoming for "Pennsylvania's doctor"!

https://twitter.com/DrOz/status/1554607634468278275

Okay, now hitting Fetterman on sending tweets instead of campaigning.  It may not be the real picture -- campaign staff exists for a reason -- but this is a strategy that has at least some teeth. 

I don't really see it that way though. If Fetterman was fine and doing this, that's one thing. You could say, well yeah he's just being lazy and should be out there campaigning when he's perfectly fine to. But the man is still recovering and slowly getting back out there. Again, I don't see how coming after someone for recovering from a medical incident is a winning strategy whatsoever. Not just that, but the video makes fun of Fetterman's speech and his expressions. That's gross.

Oh I wasn't including the stroke angle, I was just using the text of the tweet.

[wbrocks67]

This was the ad that I posted the Politifact about. Honestly, other than it being actual false information, the ad is comical more than anything, since you hear them say "Fetterman wants to release 1/3 of prisoners" and it sounds so ridiculous you know that it's either a false quote or taken wildly out of context (which it is)

https://twitter.com/julianrouth/status/1555244403215712257

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

This was the ad that I posted the Politifact about. Honestly, other than it being actual false information, the ad is comical more than anything, since you hear them say "Fetterman wants to release 1/3 of prisoners" and it sounds so ridiculous you know that it's either a false quote or taken wildly out of context (which it is)

https://twitter.com/julianrouth/status/1555244403215712257

Is that something that normally happens? (A campaign asks stations to pull an ad for being grossly misleading)?

[Holmes]

This was the ad that I posted the Politifact about. Honestly, other than it being actual false information, the ad is comical more than anything, since you hear them say "Fetterman wants to release 1/3 of prisoners" and it sounds so ridiculous you know that it's either a false quote or taken wildly out of context (which it is)

https://twitter.com/julianrouth/status/1555244403215712257

Is that something that normally happens? (A campaign asks stations to pull an ad for being grossly misleading)?

Yes, campaigns sometimes ask, but broadcasters usually always keep the ads up because there's no law or anything against lies in political TV ads. Plus the TV stations already got the money anyway. That's usually why campaigns reply with their own ads saying "you might have heard these misleading ads" etc etc.

[Joe Republic]

The biggest thing that struck me about that Parks & Rec ad is that the show was making fun of polished career politicians whose only talent is to look handsome in a suit and issue vapid soundbites.  I mean, does that truly describe Fetterman?

[wbrocks67]

Surprised Fetterman hasn't used this one yet. Oz saying "Our state" about Jersey just two years ago is pretty damning.

https://twitter.com/dscc/status/1555205588195450880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp...

[Progressive Pessimist]

That "1/3 of dangerous criminals" quote is ridiculous enough just based on the fact that I don't think even the most anti-cop, pro-defunding the police activist would even be a proponent of that. going this route reeks of desperation by the Oz campaign. I get that crime is usually an issue where Democratic perceptions are weak, but this is kind of absurd.

The biggest thing that struck me about that Parks & Rec ad is that the show was making fun of polished career politicians whose only talent is to look handsome in a suit and issue vapid soundbites.  I mean, does that truly describe Fetterman?

Oz is so bad at this...

[free my dawg]

This was the ad that I posted the Politifact about. Honestly, other than it being actual false information, the ad is comical more than anything, since you hear them say "Fetterman wants to release 1/3 of prisoners" and it sounds so ridiculous you know that it's either a false quote or taken wildly out of context (which it is)

https://twitter.com/julianrouth/status/1555244403215712257

Is that something that normally happens? (A campaign asks stations to pull an ad for being grossly misleading)?

Not the first time from Fetterman's campaign - they pulled an ad from Big Pharma calling him a "self-described socialist" during the primary for lying.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

[wbrocks67]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

A much different angle than his primary message of "I will fire fauci" lmao

[Senator Incitatus]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

Ain't that a recipe for success...

[Senator Incitatus]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

Ain't that a recipe for success...

He has about a week to withdraw and be replaced on the ballot, if he really feels that way. I would commend it.

[Sir Mohamed]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

From where are you getting that? Are you involved in the GOP ground operation in PA?

That said, I wouldn't be totally surprised. Can't imagine him withdrawing though.

[Senator Incitatus]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning.  

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle.  

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

From where are you getting that? Are you involved in the GOP ground operation in PA?

That said, I wouldn't be totally surprised. Can't imagine him withdrawing though.

I have reliable sources, which I will keep private for my own confidentiality—they are not actually within the campaign. I also can't imagine he actually withdraws in the end, so it doesn't really matter if you believe me or not. His apathy seems pretty evident on the surface.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

Ain't that a recipe for success...

He has about a week to withdraw and be replaced on the ballot, if he really feels that way. I would commend it.

If his heart isn't in the campaign, that's bound to harm the GOP's chances of winning it. I've never seen someone withdraw out of a high-profile Senate race like this after being nominated, but many "strange" things have happened in American politics over the past decade so...

[Senator Incitatus]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

Ain't that a recipe for success...

He has about a week to withdraw and be replaced on the ballot, if he really feels that way. I would commend it.

If his heart isn't in the campaign, that's bound to harm the GOP's chances of winning it. I've never seen someone withdraw out of a high-profile Senate race like this after being nominated, but many "strange" things have happened in American politics over the past decade so...

It would be fairly similar to Torricelli's withdrawal in 2002, especially since both candidates are from New Jersey.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Just saw a Youtube pre-roll ad as I'm heading out the door this morning. 

Quote: "Dr. Oz will deliver results, not partisan rhetoric."

The first time I've seen Team Oz embracing an explicitly moderate angle. 

I think he figured it would be self-evident. Campaign has been a disaster. Heard whispers he regrets running.

Ain't that a recipe for success...

He has about a week to withdraw and be replaced on the ballot, if he really feels that way. I would commend it.

If his heart isn't in the campaign, that's bound to harm the GOP's chances of winning it. I've never seen someone withdraw out of a high-profile Senate race like this after being nominated, but many "strange" things have happened in American politics over the past decade so...

It would be fairly similar to Torricelli's withdrawal in 2002, especially since both candidates are from New Jersey.

Oh yeah. I forgot about that one. Still not last decade but it's fairly similar, you're right.

[Senator Incitatus]

Oh yeah. I forgot about that one. Still not last decade but it's fairly similar, you're right.

Also, ironically, Oz's campaign is reminiscent of Pete Dawkins's New Jersey campaign in 1988; under-running the fundamentals because you're a celebrity parachuted in with the support of the President (and shoving out a more electable black candidate to boot).

[wbrocks67]

and he's back!

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1555554456724439040

[wbrocks67]

It also would not surprise me if Oz truly did not have his heart in this. I really think initially he thought he would be able to parachute in and use the 'Dr Oz' fame to his advantage and the accolades he got from people during that show to boost his candidacy, and I think now he may be realizing that it was a total miscalculation.

[Sir Mohamed]

It also would not surprise me if Oz truly did not have his heart in this. I really think initially he thought he would be able to parachute in and use the 'Dr Oz' fame to his advantage and the accolades he got from people during that show to boost his candidacy, and I think now he may be realizing that it was a total miscalculation.

Yup, and he possibly assumed the national environment alone would carry him over the finish line.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Oz reminds me of how some local Georgia sources have described David Perdue: a successful rich guy who got into politics out of boredom, but wasn't really cut out for it.  In Perdue's case, he was fortunate enough to run in a Republican wave so he won his first race, but his subsequent campaigns showed that he actually isn't a very good politician.