PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[Lambsbread]

Conor Lamb lies about receiving donations from PNC, a company his father works and lobbies for, and joining Republicans to gut a regulation that would've impacted banks like PNC:

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1460643858375749646?s=20

One wonders why he would even bother lying about publicly available information, but you can expect such brazen and defiant subversion from Moderate Hero Conor!

Interesting to see which candidate the right-wing propaganda press is attacking. Of course I think most people ignore the Intercept’s lies at this point, but as you can see from this forum, they still do manage to bamboozle some people.

Conor Lamb says he has never taken a dime from PNC, Ken posts the receipts of Conor receiving money from PNC, and you think Ken is lying?

[Lief 🗽]

Conor Lamb lies about receiving donations from PNC, a company his father works and lobbies for, and joining Republicans to gut a regulation that would've impacted banks like PNC:

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1460643858375749646?s=20

One wonders why he would even bother lying about publicly available information, but you can expect such brazen and defiant subversion from Moderate Hero Conor!

Interesting to see which candidate the right-wing propaganda press is attacking. Of course I think most people ignore the Intercept’s lies at this point, but as you can see from this forum, they still do manage to bamboozle some people.

Conor Lamb says he has never taken a dime from PNC, Ken posts the receipts of Conor receiving money from PNC, and you think Ken is lying?

Yea, because he did not post the “receipts.” He deceptively cut off a column from his first screenshot, to hide that this is a list of individuals who contributed to his campaign who happen to work at PNC, one of Lamb’s district’s largest employers. Lamb did not receive any money “from PNC.”

Ken is taking advantage of people who are unfamiliar with how campaign contributions are recorded in order to push a lie.

[wbrocks67]

Conor Lamb lies about receiving donations from PNC, a company his father works and lobbies for, and joining Republicans to gut a regulation that would've impacted banks like PNC:

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1460643858375749646?s=20

One wonders why he would even bother lying about publicly available information, but you can expect such brazen and defiant subversion from Moderate Hero Conor!

Interesting to see which candidate the right-wing propaganda press is attacking. Of course I think most people ignore the Intercept’s lies at this point, but as you can see from this forum, they still do manage to bamboozle some people.

Conor Lamb says he has never taken a dime from PNC, Ken posts the receipts of Conor receiving money from PNC, and you think Ken is lying?

Yea, because he did not post the “receipts.” He deceptively cut off a column from his first screenshot, to hide that this is a list of individuals who contributed to his campaign who happen to work at PNC, one of Lamb’s district’s largest employers. Lamb did not receive any money “from PNC.”

Why anyone thinks The Intercept or people who write/work for them is acting in good faith is beyond me.

[free my dawg]

Disappointing to see ConoR Lambchin attempting to pull the wool over his state's eyes.

[free my dawg]

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1460665616478658562?t=CAAcJhUIuR6kwNG...

The cope is incredible.

[free my dawg]

First, you have the Lamb simps whining about "purity tests" and "making stretch comparisons" after Lamb tried to redbait.

Now we have them crying tHe iNTeRCePt when they reveal FEC-corroborated info that Lamb is beholden to big banks.

At least have the dignity to support a reliable Democrat like Kenyatta.

[SnowLabrador]

Lamb will be another Sinema if he wins the primary. It has to be Fetterman.

[Utah Neolib]

Lamb is to the left of Sinema. Not every moderate is a Sinema or a Manchin, don’t believe some of the Fetterman stans fearmongering.

[free my dawg]

Also very thankful that Our Future President is too busy governing to get into Twitter feuds with critical journalists.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lamb will be another Sinema if he wins the primary. It has to be Fetterman.

Imagine actually believing this nonsense

[H. Ross Peron]

Lamb is to the left of Sinema. Not every moderate is a Sinema or a Manchin, don’t believe some of the Fetterman stans fearmongering.

Probably not Sinemanchin but quite possibly another Menendez/Coons/Feinstein.

[free my dawg]

Lamb is to the left of Sinema. Not every moderate is a Sinema or a Manchin, don’t believe some of the Fetterman stans fearmongering.

Probably not Sinemanchin but quite possibly another Menendez/Coons/Feinstein.

IMO that's his ceiling.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

I mean Fetterman's celling is a 5 point loss and historical foot-note, so I think Lamb has got him beat in that regard.

[free my dawg]

Nah, Lambchin loses even harder.

Fetterman could be Presidential material, but let's all get back to reality for a second. Harris exists.

[wbrocks67]

This thread is going to be painful.

[Lambsbread]

It is an exaggeration to say that Lamb would be another Sinema or Manchin, but it's not a stretch to say that he would be a heel to the Democratic agenda at some points. He already has a record of voting against Nancy Pelosi for Speaker because muh moderate values.

It's not a matter of voting for the most left wing candidate in the race, it's about voting for a candidate who has pledged to support things that Democrats support. Fetterman, Kenyatta, even Street and Arkoosh all have committed to supporting policies that Democrats support. Lamb has a record of antagonizing Democrats to score points. It shouldn't be difficult to see why there's apprehension to nominate him in what might be the keystone (pun intended) to controlling the Senate.

[Secretary of State Liberal Hack]

Nah, Lambchin loses even harder.

Fetterman could be Presidential material, but let's all get back to reality for a second. Harris exists.

This is pure nonsense, there is no evidence the man has any special political talent or appeal to anyone outside of democratic voters. He's literary never won a competitive election that wasn't a dem primary.

It's like if the republicans had some non-binary colored hair black person running who occasionally make some greenwaldian arguments on the left but is otherwise a traditional trumpist republican in terms of policy and rhetoric started hyping them up as an electoral god because they won a few primaries with a trump endorsement.

He's the democratic version of Winsome Sears
.

[KaiserDave]

Fetterman isn't the Democratic version of anything. He’s just John Fetterman.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Fetterman is the Democratic version of anything. He’s just John Fetterman.

What

He is definitely blue Collar just like Bob Casey Jr, and so is Josh Shapiro, and Mandela Barnes or Tom Nelson are definitely blue collar

Those are Lean D TO, despite what Rs think, it's most likely a 51 or 52 D Senate depends on GA

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

It is an exaggeration to say that Lamb would be another Sinema or Manchin, but it's not a stretch to say that he would be a heel to the Democratic agenda at some points. He already has a record of voting against Nancy Pelosi for Speaker because muh moderate values.

It's not a matter of voting for the most left wing candidate in the race, it's about voting for a candidate who has pledged to support things that Democrats support. Fetterman, Kenyatta, even Street and Arkoosh all have committed to supporting policies that Democrats support. Lamb has a record of antagonizing Democrats to score points. It shouldn't be difficult to see why there's apprehension to nominate him in what might be the keystone (pun intended) to controlling the Senate.

Other than not joining the virtue-signaling on a DOA marijuana bill, when haven’t we been able to count on his vote?  What are specific examples where he didn’t vote with us on something important?  I mean, he’s already came out pretty strongly for nuking the filibuster.

[VPH]

I liked Fetterman at first but his campaign has been cringeworthy and filled with virtue signaling to left-wing activists. He's parading around the state trying to get RTs with his weed flags and LGBTQ flags while Conor Lamb is actually in Congress getting things done for Pennsylvania.

[Lambsbread]

It is an exaggeration to say that Lamb would be another Sinema or Manchin, but it's not a stretch to say that he would be a heel to the Democratic agenda at some points. He already has a record of voting against Nancy Pelosi for Speaker because muh moderate values.

It's not a matter of voting for the most left wing candidate in the race, it's about voting for a candidate who has pledged to support things that Democrats support. Fetterman, Kenyatta, even Street and Arkoosh all have committed to supporting policies that Democrats support. Lamb has a record of antagonizing Democrats to score points. It shouldn't be difficult to see why there's apprehension to nominate him in what might be the keystone (pun intended) to controlling the Senate.

Other than not joining the virtue-signaling on a DOA marijuana bill, when haven’t we been able to count on his vote?  What are specific examples where he didn’t vote with us on something important?  I mean, he’s already came out pretty strongly for nuking the filibuster.

How about the two examples I've already given other than the MORE Act--voting against Pelosi for Speaker as a symbolic gesture to how much he "hates the establishment" and voting against the Volcker Rule? How about blaming the Squad for downballot Democrats losing when progressive members of the House in swing districts were re-elected in 2020 while moderates who refused to advocate for anything more than the abstract concept of "bipartisanship" lost?

As I've stated previously, he is not a Manchin/Sinema type--but if there's any shadow of a doubt that we could trust him to push for the boldest aspects of the Biden agenda, he should not be made the Democratic nominee. Supporting filibuster reform and a $15/hr minimum wage is great, and part of the reason why I would be willing to vote for him if he did win the nomination, but he seems to spend more time running against his own party than the other party. He wants to convince people that Democrats are not leftists more than convincing people that Democrats are offering solutions and Republicans are offering obstruction.

[Xing]

Can we at least see who does well in the primary and brings out people in critical parts of the state before declaring to know who’s an electoral titan and who would lose the race for dog catcher in a landslide? Thanks.

[Lambsbread]

Can we at least see who does well in the primary and brings out people in critical parts of the state before declaring to know who’s an electoral titan and who would lose the race for dog catcher in a landslide? Thanks.

How very pessimistic 😭😭😭😭of you.

[free my dawg]

Nah, Lambchin loses even harder.

Fetterman could be Presidential material, but let's all get back to reality for a second. Harris exists.

This is pure nonsense, there is no evidence the man has any special political talent or appeal to anyone outside of democratic voters. He's literary never won a competitive election that wasn't a dem primary.

It's like if the republicans had some non-binary colored hair black person running who occasionally make some greenwaldian arguments on the left but is otherwise a traditional trumpist republican in terms of policy and rhetoric started hyping them up as an electoral god because they won a few primaries with a trump endorsement.

He's the democratic version of Winsome Sears
.

So he ends up winning the general in an upset. Count me in!