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« Reply #2200 on: October 28, 2021, 04:40:20 PM »

Again, it doesn't matter what it is, this now opens up more "Trump is helping Youngkin" narratives. Doesn't matter if it's an actual rally or a tele-rally. But one wonders why Trump is even doing a telephone rally for him on Monday, rather then not doing anything at all and keeping his name out of it.
Even I as a Trump supporter must admit the man has an ego
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« Reply #2201 on: October 28, 2021, 04:51:14 PM »

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« Reply #2202 on: October 28, 2021, 05:00:36 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2021, 05:03:57 PM by roxas11 »

Again, it doesn't matter what it is, this now opens up more "Trump is helping Youngkin" narratives. Doesn't matter if it's an actual rally or a tele-rally. But one wonders why Trump is even doing a telephone rally for him on Monday, rather then not doing anything at all and keeping his name out of it.
Even I as a Trump supporter must admit the man has an ego

He does have a big ego, but so does 99 percent of all the politicians that are currently working in Washington right now lol

The only difference between them and Trump is that they know how to hide the fact that they are egotistical narcissist better than trump ever could

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« Reply #2203 on: October 28, 2021, 05:01:19 PM »

If Va was like CA with a total baked in early mail vote, maybe, but over 50% of VA's electorate will vote in person on Tuesday, so how would any news be 'too late'?


“In the race of his life” “pleading (practically begging)”

Whew the beltway media is so dramatic and thirsty.

We’re gonna see this same silly dog and pony show every four years since there’s nothing else for the media to talk about on the off year.
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« Reply #2204 on: October 28, 2021, 05:03:18 PM »

Wtf bruh!!!!!

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« Reply #2205 on: October 28, 2021, 05:06:32 PM »

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« Reply #2206 on: October 28, 2021, 05:12:31 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2021, 05:21:57 PM by roxas11 »

Wtf bruh!!!!!



very bold move by fox

Its one thing to claim glenn youngkin will win but a blowout not even the Trafalgar Group is willing to go that far...

fox is truly on their own island on this one because not a single other poll, including the ones that came out yesterday showed anybody leading by more than 1 or 3 points

bottom line either their results will be correct on election day or fox news is about to become the biggest joke in polling history


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« Reply #2207 on: October 28, 2021, 05:17:45 PM »

When Youngkin loses they’re going to have some serious explaining to do
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« Reply #2208 on: October 28, 2021, 05:20:01 PM »

What a disaster
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« Reply #2209 on: October 28, 2021, 05:21:29 PM »

This is a pretty massive outlier, no?
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« Reply #2210 on: October 28, 2021, 05:25:11 PM »


I agree its disaster but the qestion is for who

terry mcauliffe or The fox news polling company lol
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« Reply #2211 on: October 28, 2021, 05:27:48 PM »


I agree its disaster but the qestion is for who

terry mcauliffe or The fox news polling company lol

Didn’t Fox fire their old pollster after 2020?
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« Reply #2212 on: October 28, 2021, 05:31:19 PM »

Either 2022 really will make 2010 look like a blue wave in comparison, or this is the equivalent of Greenfield +12. Or a bit of both.
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« Reply #2213 on: October 28, 2021, 05:36:02 PM »

Either 2022 really will make 2010 look like a blue wave in comparison, or this is the equivalent of Greenfield +12. Or a bit of both.

Republicans swept VA in a landslide and won NJ in 2009 and still lost several Senate races in states far less blue in 2010 (CO, NV, WV), with Democrats being competitive in WI/PA (the VA/NJ results wouldn’t have "suggested" that). It would be a devastating result for Democrats, but there’s also no need to overinterpret this — if Youngkin really does win or comes extremely close, I’d say this was a rejection of the VA Democratic Party and McAuliffe (who is objectively an awful candidate for anyone who’s not a hardcore Democrat) just as much if not more so than it was a rejection of Biden/national Dems (although the two aren’t that easy to separate at times).
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« Reply #2214 on: October 28, 2021, 05:36:37 PM »

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« Reply #2215 on: October 28, 2021, 05:38:47 PM »

I think Youngkin is going to win at this point. I want to be wrong but I’m calling it now so I’m not as disappointed.
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« Reply #2216 on: October 28, 2021, 05:39:03 PM »

TMac will win. Screenshot this post.
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« Reply #2217 on: October 28, 2021, 05:44:24 PM »


Make what you will of this.
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« Reply #2218 on: October 28, 2021, 05:44:35 PM »

I think Youngkin is going to win at this point. I want to be wrong but I’m calling it now so I’m not as disappointed.
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« Reply #2219 on: October 28, 2021, 05:45:55 PM »

Either 2022 really will make 2010 look like a blue wave in comparison, or this is the equivalent of Greenfield +12. Or a bit of both.

Republicans swept VA in a landslide and won NJ in 2009 and still lost several Senate races in states far less blue in 2010 (CO, NV, WV), with Democrats being competitive in WI/PA (the VA/NJ results wouldn’t have "suggested" that). It would be a devastating result for Democrats, but there’s also no need to overinterpret this — if Youngkin really does win or comes extremely close, I’d say this was a rejection of the VA Democratic Party and McAuliffe (who is objectively an awful candidate for anyone who’s not a hardcore Democrat) just as much if not more so than it was a rejection of Biden/national Dems (although the two aren’t that easy to separate at times).

Virginia is way more Democratic now and races are much more nationalized than in 2009. This would be like Republicans losing a highly nationalized race in Ohio. No way it doesn't spell trouble of biblical proportions for Democrats.
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« Reply #2220 on: October 28, 2021, 05:52:55 PM »

There is no scenario where McAuliffe loses. The end.
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« Reply #2221 on: October 28, 2021, 05:54:36 PM »

Either 2022 really will make 2010 look like a blue wave in comparison, or this is the equivalent of Greenfield +12. Or a bit of both.

Republicans swept VA in a landslide and won NJ in 2009 and still lost several Senate races in states far less blue in 2010 (CO, NV, WV), with Democrats being competitive in WI/PA (the VA/NJ results wouldn’t have "suggested" that). It would be a devastating result for Democrats, but there’s also no need to overinterpret this — if Youngkin really does win or comes extremely close, I’d say this was a rejection of the VA Democratic Party and McAuliffe (who is objectively an awful candidate for anyone who’s not a hardcore Democrat) just as much if not more so than it was a rejection of Biden/national Dems (although the two aren’t that easy to separate at times).

Virginia is way more Democratic now and races are much more nationalized than in 2009. This would be like Republicans losing a highly nationalized race in Ohio. No way it doesn't spell trouble of biblical proportions for Democrats.

It does spell big trouble for them, but if VA is their only notable underperformance and they hold up relatively well in NJ/PA, I don’t think it would suggest a wave worse than (or even on par with) 2010. It would be a damning indictment of the VA Democratic Party and McAuliffe's campaign, though.

Doug Jones flipping AL did not foreshadow Democratic wins in TN/TX/FL/ND/IN/MO, so I wouldn’t extrapolate a "biblical wave" based on "uniform swing." Gubernatorial races might have become more nationalized, but they’re still not nearly as nationalized as Senate/presidential races.
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« Reply #2222 on: October 28, 2021, 05:57:07 PM »

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« Reply #2223 on: October 28, 2021, 05:58:23 PM »

Either 2022 really will make 2010 look like a blue wave in comparison, or this is the equivalent of Greenfield +12. Or a bit of both.


Whats crazy about that to me is that so far 2022 is shaping up to be nothing like 2010 at all

The economy was worse in 2010 with unemployment was at 9.6 percent compared to the 4.8 percent it is currently at right now. Those numbers will drop even further by the time we actually get to November 2022

another big difference is that Biden is currently on the cusp of passing his agenda, whereas Obama was still in the middle of a long drawn out fight over health care that dragged into next year

last be not least the covid situation is improving much faster for Biden compared to the very slow recovery from the great recession under Obama in 2010

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« Reply #2224 on: October 28, 2021, 05:58:28 PM »


Make what you will of this.

True, but I'm wondering if that bares out. This is the first poll to show that Biden voters are not exclusively going to T-Mac. Most polls are showing both sides with about ~95% support. This one shows way more Dem/Youngkin voters than Rep/McAuliffe voters.
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