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« Reply #2125 on: October 27, 2021, 04:07:19 PM »

Wait, Trump actually can't be going to VA right? Is he really going to sabotage Youngkin's campaign?

Even the "talk" of Trump coming reinserts himself into this campaign.




No, "soon" does not mean that he will go immediately to campaign

You're correct - but the last thing Youngkin needs is any talk of Trump associated with his campaign. This now reinserts Trump into the equation, whether he goes or not
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« Reply #2126 on: October 27, 2021, 04:08:11 PM »



Given that Youngkin is at 46% in the average, which is just 1 more than 45, seems like an... odd comparison

Very odd for the point he was presumably trying to make.  If Youngkin reaching 46% is the best argument for Youngkin defying the odds then Youngkin is screwed.
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« Reply #2127 on: October 27, 2021, 04:12:23 PM »

A Trump rally in NOVA is the OPPOSITE of what Youngkin needs. We are six days away. He needs to not tie himself to someone so despised if he wants to keep the margins respectable there.
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« Reply #2128 on: October 27, 2021, 04:16:51 PM »

A Trump rally in NOVA is the OPPOSITE of what Youngkin needs. We are six days away. He needs to not tie himself to someone so despised if he wants to keep the margins respectable there.

There will be no rally, Trump will be in Georgia on the 30th and 31st, it is simply logistically impossible. "Soon" does not mean immediately.
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« Reply #2129 on: October 27, 2021, 04:18:35 PM »

A Trump rally in NOVA is the OPPOSITE of what Youngkin needs. We are six days away. He needs to not tie himself to someone so despised if he wants to keep the margins respectable there.

Per GOP logic, I think Trump should come to NOVA!  After all, the election was "stolen" which means Trump actually won Virginia.  Giuliani has noted this very fact; indeed he is quoted as saying Trump really won Virginia.  When you take out the "fake" mail in ballots, which were all "fraudulent" in NOVA according to Giuliani and others, Trump actually won Virginia.  Therefore, according to the Trump campaign, Trump is actually very popular in Virginia and in NOVA in particular.  

And it would only be to Youngkin's benefit to have Trump campaign with him according to Trump himself.  After all, Trump credited Barbara Comstock losing her race to her not "embracing him" and Barbara Comstock represented the largest and most populated Northern Virginia district.
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« Reply #2130 on: October 27, 2021, 04:27:01 PM »

A Trump rally in NOVA is the OPPOSITE of what Youngkin needs. We are six days away. He needs to not tie himself to someone so despised if he wants to keep the margins respectable there.

There will be no rally, Trump will be in Georgia on the 30th and 31st, it is simply logistically impossible. "Soon" does not mean immediately.
Trump being mentioned up there is still no favor to Youngkin. He will just drive more turnout, from Democrats.
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« Reply #2131 on: October 27, 2021, 04:44:25 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).
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« Reply #2132 on: October 27, 2021, 04:48:12 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

It was always Safe D, and anyone who thinks otherwise is falling for the football like Charlie Brown. This is the Democratic version of Florida. Just because McAuliffe might only win by an embarrassingly small margin doesn’t change the fact that he was never going to lose. Especially not to someone who isn’t a RINO.
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« Reply #2133 on: October 27, 2021, 04:53:26 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

It was always Safe D, and anyone who thinks otherwise is falling for the football like Charlie Brown. This is the Democratic version of Florida. Just because McAuliffe might only win by an embarrassingly small margin doesn’t change the fact that he was never going to lose. Especially not to someone who isn’t a RINO.

OK, so if Youngkin wins no one should take a single thing you say seriously.
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« Reply #2134 on: October 27, 2021, 04:55:02 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

It was always Safe D, and anyone who thinks otherwise is falling for the football like Charlie Brown. This is the Democratic version of Florida. Just because McAuliffe might only win by an embarrassingly small margin doesn’t change the fact that he was never going to lose. Especially not to someone who isn’t a RINO.

OK, so if Youngkin wins no one should take a single thing you say seriously.


First off, no one should take anything anyone says here seriously. We’re all internet strangers on talkelections.org/forum lol


And if McAuliffe wins, as we should all know he will, we will undoubtedly see this same silly dog and pony show in 2025 about how competitive Virginia is despite voting blue federally by double digits in 2024.

Only a RINO can win as a Republican in Virginia now.
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« Reply #2135 on: October 27, 2021, 05:37:27 PM »

Wait, Trump actually can't be going to VA right? Is he really going to sabotage Youngkin's campaign?

Even the "talk" of Trump coming reinserts himself into this campaign.



The most absurd fact is it seems they plan on having it in Arlington. As in, the city that last voted Republican in 1980 and 4 out of 5 people voted against him. That’ll go over like a lead balloon
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« Reply #2136 on: October 27, 2021, 05:57:31 PM »

Wait, Trump actually can't be going to VA right? Is he really going to sabotage Youngkin's campaign?

Even the "talk" of Trump coming reinserts himself into this campaign.



The most absurd fact is it seems they plan on having it in Arlington. As in, the city that last voted Republican in 1980 and 4 out of 5 people voted against him. That’ll go over like a lead balloon

Very true. The big question is does it happen before the election?
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« Reply #2137 on: October 27, 2021, 05:59:46 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

I'm not sure why you're being immature and disingenuous. No one is saying this.

The bottom line is that if this race is as much of a squeaker as the polls say, neither side can deal with anything at this point that might hurt them. A "Trump might come to Virginia for Youngkin" storyline, whether it's true or not, is bad news for Youngkin, and only goes to shore up the allegedly "sleepy" Democratic base.
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« Reply #2138 on: October 27, 2021, 06:08:10 PM »

Wait, Trump actually can't be going to VA right? Is he really going to sabotage Youngkin's campaign?

Even the "talk" of Trump coming reinserts himself into this campaign.



The most absurd fact is it seems they plan on having it in Arlington. As in, the city that last voted Republican in 1980 and 4 out of 5 people voted against him. That’ll go over like a lead balloon

Very true. The big question is does it happen before the election?
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As for the timing of any potential rally – strike Saturday. Sources close to the former president indicate that Trump will be in Atlanta, Georgia that evening to attend game four of Major League Baseball’s World Series, between the Atlanta Braves and the Houston Astros.
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« Reply #2139 on: October 27, 2021, 06:11:17 PM »

Wow the blue avatars (and the obvious GOPers using green avatars) really seem panicked about this Trump article.  Nice to see.
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« Reply #2140 on: October 27, 2021, 06:13:12 PM »

Wow the blue avatars (and the obvious GOPers using green avatars) really seem panicked about this Trump article.  Nice to see.

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« Reply #2141 on: October 27, 2021, 06:13:45 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

I'm not sure why you're being immature and disingenuous. No one is saying this.

The bottom line is that if this race is as much of a squeaker as the polls say, neither side can deal with anything at this point that might hurt them. A "Trump might come to Virginia for Youngkin" storyline, whether it's true or not, is bad news for Youngkin, and only goes to shore up the allegedly "sleepy" Democratic base.

It is far more disingenuous to suggest that some message that Trump may come to Virginia (unrelated to this election) at some point is going to persuade people to not vote for Youngkin. Anybody who falls for that was already voting for McAuliffe, who mentions Trump dozens of times in his speeches/ads. The fact that people (including Republicans) believe that crap shows this place lives in a TDS bubble that needs bursting every once in a while.
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« Reply #2142 on: October 27, 2021, 06:17:17 PM »


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« Reply #2143 on: October 27, 2021, 06:19:51 PM »



On what planet was the conventional wisdom that Northam was going to lose in 2017?
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« Reply #2144 on: October 27, 2021, 06:21:48 PM »

I would say that the Youngkin surge has made Trump cocky about  thinking that he can't damage his candidate's chances by visiting Virginia, but Trump doesn't think that way. He thinks literally everybody loves him and that he can never do any harm to his party. Hell, I've seen some Big Lie peddlers say that Virginia, a Biden+10 state, should be audited to prove a Trump victory. So the real question is, why he and his deluded ass hasn't considered going to Virginia to hold a rally sooner.
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« Reply #2145 on: October 27, 2021, 06:24:49 PM »

Wow the blue avatars (and the obvious GOPers using green avatars) really seem panicked about this Trump article.  Nice to see.

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All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).


response in 2 mins.  Wow the Trump article really is getting to you. 
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« Reply #2146 on: October 27, 2021, 06:26:14 PM »



On what planet was the conventional wisdom that Northam was going to lose in 2017?

planet https://talkelections.org
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« Reply #2147 on: October 27, 2021, 06:28:13 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

I'm not sure why you're being immature and disingenuous. No one is saying this.

The bottom line is that if this race is as much of a squeaker as the polls say, neither side can deal with anything at this point that might hurt them. A "Trump might come to Virginia for Youngkin" storyline, whether it's true or not, is bad news for Youngkin, and only goes to shore up the allegedly "sleepy" Democratic base.

It is far more disingenuous to suggest that some message that Trump may come to Virginia (unrelated to this election) at some point is going to persuade people to not vote for Youngkin. Anybody who falls for that was already voting for McAuliffe, who mentions Trump dozens of times in his speeches/ads. The fact that people (including Republicans) believe that crap shows this place lives in a TDS bubble that needs bursting every once in a while.

How is "Trump might come to Virginia" unrelated to the election? In what world?

Also this isn't really about converting Youngkin voters to T-Mac. Of course this wouldn't do that. Like I said, if you read my post thoroughly before commenting, this is about base tactics. And this is something that easily turns up the D base as well as could put Indies off of Youngkin if they believe Trump is involved in his campaign in any way, shape, or form.
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« Reply #2148 on: October 27, 2021, 06:28:34 PM »

Meanwhile, unfortunately there will be no final CBS/YouGov poll.
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« Reply #2149 on: October 27, 2021, 06:30:46 PM »

All it takes is for some vague message from Trump about Virginia for people here to lose their mind and rationality. Yes, that's totally going to move the race 10 points towards the Democrats overnight. Safe D now (well, a lot of you believe that anyway).

I'm not sure why you're being immature and disingenuous. No one is saying this.

The bottom line is that if this race is as much of a squeaker as the polls say, neither side can deal with anything at this point that might hurt them. A "Trump might come to Virginia for Youngkin" storyline, whether it's true or not, is bad news for Youngkin, and only goes to shore up the allegedly "sleepy" Democratic base.

It is far more disingenuous to suggest that some message that Trump may come to Virginia (unrelated to this election) at some point is going to persuade people to not vote for Youngkin. Anybody who falls for that was already voting for McAuliffe, who mentions Trump dozens of times in his speeches/ads. The fact that people (including Republicans) believe that crap shows this place lives in a TDS bubble that needs bursting every once in a while.

You seem really bent out of shape about this. Perhaps take a breather?
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