Virginia Mega Thread: The Youngkin Administration

[Suburbia]

Is that really an endorsement you wanna brag about though?
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1442999842771546113?s=20
Although NOVA is a pretty neocon/neolib/Lincoln Project type area so maybe it actually helps Terry after all?

Only political junkies and mild people who know of politics know who Kristol is. Most Americans don't know who he is....

[Matty]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

[compucomp]

This is going to trigger some folks here.

Terry McAuliffe says $3.5T reconciliation price tag is 'too high'

National politics seeped into Tuesday night’s Virginia governor debate, with the candidates weighing in on the reconciliation price tag, the Biden administration’s withdrawal from Afghanistan and a potential 2024 presidential run for former President Donald Trump.

Former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe said he thought $3.5 trillion was “too high” for the Democrats‘ reconciliation bill.

“They got to stop their little chitty-chat up there, and it is time for them to pass it. Let’s get this infrastructure bill passed for America,” McAuliffe said, slamming lawmakers for this week’s chaotic back-and-forth on how to get President Joe Biden’s infrastructure package through Congress.

[Suburbia]

This is going to trigger some folks here.

Terry McAuliffe says $3.5T reconciliation price tag is 'too high'

National politics seeped into Tuesday night’s Virginia governor debate, with the candidates weighing in on the reconciliation price tag, the Biden administration’s withdrawal from Afghanistan and a potential 2024 presidential run for former President Donald Trump.

Former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe said he thought $3.5 trillion was “too high” for the Democrats‘ reconciliation bill.

“They got to stop their little chitty-chat up there, and it is time for them to pass it. Let’s get this infrastructure bill passed for America,” McAuliffe said, slamming lawmakers for this week’s chaotic back-and-forth on how to get President Joe Biden’s infrastructure package through Congress.

Virginia is a blue state now, but blue state Republicans like Youngkin are trying to run a Hogan-type campaign, that is why Hogan endorsed Youngkin and I can expect Baker and Christie and Pataki to do the same, that is why Youngkin is zoning in on NOVA because a lot of Loudoun/Fairfax voters like Hogan and Pataki-type candidates, Youngkin reminds them of that "moderate" Republican....

McAuliffe is a center-left Democrat, so he is saying that, but the VA legislature will probably pass their own infrastructure bill in 2022

This should be a local campaign, no national politics

[jamestroll]

who won the debate

[Skill and Chance]

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

[Non Swing Voter]

This is going to trigger some folks here.

Terry McAuliffe says $3.5T reconciliation price tag is 'too high'

National politics seeped into Tuesday night’s Virginia governor debate, with the candidates weighing in on the reconciliation price tag, the Biden administration’s withdrawal from Afghanistan and a potential 2024 presidential run for former President Donald Trump.

Former Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe said he thought $3.5 trillion was “too high” for the Democrats‘ reconciliation bill.

“They got to stop their little chitty-chat up there, and it is time for them to pass it. Let’s get this infrastructure bill passed for America,” McAuliffe said, slamming lawmakers for this week’s chaotic back-and-forth on how to get President Joe Biden’s infrastructure package through Congress.

Virginia is a blue state now, but blue state Republicans like Youngkin are trying to run a Hogan-type campaign, that is why Hogan endorsed Youngkin and I can expect Baker and Christie and Pataki to do the same, that is why Youngkin is zoning in on NOVA because a lot of Loudoun/Fairfax voters like Hogan and Pataki-type candidates, Youngkin reminds them of that "moderate" Republican....

McAuliffe is a center-left Democrat, so he is saying that, but the VA legislature will probably pass their own infrastructure bill in 2022

This should be a local campaign, no national politics

Except he's really not.  Youngkin is a lifetime NRA member.  He is pro life.  He is anti mask mandate, anti any kind of vaccine mandate.  He's completely out of touch with where Virginia voters are, particularly in Fairfax/Loudoun, which is why he will lose.  He is no Hogan.  He's more akin to Marco Rubio, another empty suit "moderate" who will do or say anything to get elected.  But unfortunately for Trumpkin, he's not running in an R+3 state, he's running in a D+9 state.

[Oryxslayer]

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

Which is weird cause I think Youngkin saying he would endorse Trump in '24 or Youngkin opposing Afghan refugees are bigger missteps and more likely to appear in October Democratic ads.

[Skill and Chance]

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

Which is weird cause I think Youngkin saying he would endorse Trump in '24 or Youngkin opposing Afghan refugees are bigger missteps and more likely to appear in October Democratic ads.

Forgot to mention that one.  When you combine that with the vaccine awkwardness, perhaps McAuliffe has more material to work with.  The schools comment could hurt meaningfully though.  On the other hand, IDK if any of it matters?

[Gass3268]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

This is the correct line to take.

[wbrocks67]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

This is the correct line to take.

Yeah, how is this a gaffe? Pretty sure even most liberal minded folks hate it when karens try and tell the school and teachers what to do.

[wbrocks67]

Given how toxic Trump is in Virginia, Youngkin made the biggest gaffe of the night with saying he would outright support Trump in 2024 - the man that literally caused an insurrection on the US capitol this year. That should strip him of any fake "moderate" status at this point.

[Skill and Chance]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

This is the correct line to take.

Yeah, how is this a gaffe? Pretty sure even most liberal minded folks hate it when karens try and tell the school and teachers what to do.

I don't know that it's a gaffe, but it's the kind of statement that could be rocket fuel for the GOP base.  Even if it doesn't hurt on net in VA, it would be very dangerous in a state closer to the national average.

[roxas11]

who won the debate

McAuliffe did simply because Youngkin failed to change the fundamentals of the race. Youngkin needs more than a draw or a slight victory in debate in order to stand any change of winning in Virigina.

He needed to radically change the direction of the race and so far he has failed to do that

[Dan the Roman]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

This is the correct line to take.

Yeah, how is this a gaffe? Pretty sure even most liberal minded folks hate it when karens try and tell the school and teachers what to do.

I don't know that it's a gaffe, but it's the kind of statement that could be rocket fuel for the GOP base.  Even if it doesn't hurt on net in VA, it would be very dangerous in a state closer to the national average.

It would have been highly damaging in June when parental control = ability to prevent nutty people from abolishing advanced placement courses and merit based policies.

But this fall parental control = GOP governors banning local parents from punishing the local anti-social road rage couple from forcing their kid to behave in class(ie, wear a mask) , and preventing them from requiring support staff to be vaccinated.

The only swing voters this issue was making headway on, largely Asian immigrants, upscale whites, some other immigrant professionals, are all hard-line covid restrictionists, and I suspect the slogan is now a serious liability.

The GOP allowed it to be identified with folks who are not even parents who are viewed unfavorably by 60% of actual parents.

There is a reason Youngkin has dropped all the education stuff lately. Because clearly they have polling that identifying him with it means identifying him with the belligerent old angry white folks who terrify the voters he needs.

[wbrocks67]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

who won the debate

IDK they both had stumbles-after stating he opposed COVID vaccine mandates, Youngkin was unable to respond coherently about how he would handle vaccines other than COVID that are already mandatory.  In response to a question about removing books from school libraries, McAuliffe said “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what to teach.”  Those are the clips that either side is promoting.

This is the correct line to take.

Yeah, how is this a gaffe? Pretty sure even most liberal minded folks hate it when karens try and tell the school and teachers what to do.

I don't know that it's a gaffe, but it's the kind of statement that could be rocket fuel for the GOP base.  Even if it doesn't hurt on net in VA, it would be very dangerous in a state closer to the national average.

How is it rocket fuel for the GOP base though? Maybe I'm misreading what he said, but I'm pretty sure the idea of "parents need to stay out of the schools business" in the general sense is a VERY bipartisan idea.

[PSOL]

Princess Blanding crashes the media blackout against her

https://mobile.twitter.com/PrinBlandingVA/status/1443243501722947595
So brave of her. Virginia deserves better than Trumpkin and the klansman.

[Real Texan Politics]

apparently terry mcaulife had some gaffe tonight where he said he doesn't want parents being involved in decisions schools make or something.

This is T-Mac's "hell yes" moment, but likely won't be as consequential.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

https://twitter.com/Michelle4VA50/status/1442927730895376384?s=19

Beyond parody. Maybe Carter was the right choice after all.

NARAL Virginia has gone off the deep end tbf.  They’re apparently refusing to describe pregnant women as “mothers” or “women” b/c “something something Evulz cisgender terminology.”

[Devils30]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democrsts-virginia-governor/2021/09/29/47f3099a-2135-11ec-9309-b743b79abc59_story.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=wp_politics

Time to wet the bed some more.

[Holmes]

Not really paying attention to this race tbh but have the "black voters are not energized" articles started yet? Those were all over the place in 2017.

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/christinafreund/status/1443343610838142980?s=20

Big Youngkin momentum!

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Beyond parody. Maybe Carter was the right choice after all.

NARAL Virginia has gone off the deep end tbf.  They’re apparently refusing to describe pregnant women as “mothers” or “women” b/c “something something Evulz cisgender terminology.”

Right. The problem is, I don't think anyone particularly cares about what NARAL VA tweets.

[LtNOWIS]

https://twitter.com/Michelle4VA50/status/1442927730895376384?s=19
Beyond parody. Maybe Carter was the right choice after all.

If NARAL Virginia didn't want things like this to happen, they shouldn't have gone completely outside their wheelhouse to support defunding the police. They are distracting from their broadly popular cause by advocating an unrelated, much less popular idea.

[Horus]

https://twitter.com/christinafreund/status/1443343610838142980?s=20

Big Youngkin momentum!

Yuck. This makes me trust T Mac even less. If a CoC isn't all in for the Republican, something is very amiss in the Democratic party.