Virginia Mega Thread: The Youngkin Administration

[Oryxslayer]

Virginia and the Democratic Party will be much better off once he's officially out of office.

Definitely will not be — you should google the lady who's replacing him!

We know

I know Lee Carter is a DSAer, but is there any reason beyond that that Atlas doesn't seem to like him much? I haven't really been following what he's been up to.

As someone who isn't far off from the DSA in politics, he's an embarrassing berniebro who makes all socialist look bad

He also didn't lose to any old Dem, he lost to a better tempered Progressive who actually cares about the region:

https://twitter.com/samdman95/status/1402419144297914368?s=20

[Non Swing Voter]

Glorious night

Why? besides perhaps higher than expected turnout (although still lower than 2017 and factoring in population growth of the state), the man widely expected to win, won.

Congrats on a boring mundate white dude who was already governor...yet again becoming governor.

Also, I guess none of you are bothered by him channeling his inner trump here?

https://twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1402086987000074242

The only thing Trumpy about this post is you trying to equate the Florida recount with Trump's obvious post election lies and temper tantrums.

[jamestroll]

I am seeing a lot of takes on twitter that Loudoun County will be won by Youngkin.

Youngkin would have to win by at least 10 statewide in order to carry Loudoun and that is only because Youngkin can only improve so much on Trump in the west and far west and I can not see rural African American's in the east and south side swining to Youngkin.

The range of the election statewide is between Youngkin + 10 to Tmac +7. Most likely outcome is Tmac by 1 to 3%.

95% Youngkin loses Loudoun.

[Non Swing Voter]

I am seeing a lot of takes on twitter that Loudoun County will be won by Youngkin.

Youngkin would have to win by at least 10 statewide in order to carry Loudoun and that is only because Youngkin can only improve so much on Trump in the west and far west and I can not see rural African American's in the east and south side swining to Youngkin.

The range of the election statewide is between Youngkin + 10 to Tmac +7. Most likely outcome is Tmac by 1 to 3%.

95% Youngkin loses Loudoun.

Of course Youngkin will lose Loudoun.  Loudoun is democratic because of demographic changes as opposed to moderate whites (though there's some of that going on too).  Youngkin's best strategy is to pretend to not be conservative and try to cut into the margin in Fairfax. A lot more to be gained and more swing voters but likely not nearly enough to actually win statewide even if he pulled off the juggling act that Gillespie failed to.  He's basically just a more successful, better looking version of Gillespie.

[Lief 🗽]

A big defeat for the forces of malarkey tonight. Thank you Virginia!
https://twitter.com/gdigitalzsmooth/status/1402435166799343617?s=21

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

With McAuliffe successfully consolidating Democratic support in a multi-candidate primary & Dem turnout nearly-matching the 2017 primary, this clearly looks like the makings of a 3% Lean D win. Chesterfield County is gonna be a bloodbath.

The range of the election statewide is between Youngkin + 10 to Tmac +7. Most likely outcome is Tmac by 1 to 3%.

And here I thought I was being too sarcastic. If anything, it's not sarcastic enough.

[TrumpBritt24]

Return of the Mack!

Add Carter to a growing list of DemSoc failures.

Update: 2.8% LMAO

The Biden Administration will be the death of the progressive left, for better or worse.

[TrumpBritt24]

Oh God Carter's concession tweet reads like a really bad copypasta.

At least pull a Joshua Collins and lose with your chin up lmao, especially with such a dangerously enticing candidate like Youngkin on the rise.

[Oryxslayer]

Return of the Mack!

Add Carter to a growing list of DemSoc failures.

The Biden Administration will be the death of the progressive left, for better or worse.

The 'insurgent' left is certainly in decline, I think 2020 and Jan6  turned a lot of Dem voters away from those that care more about appearances and infallibility. The 'cooperative' or 'legislative' left though appears to doing fine and may gain even more prominence if Wiley wins in NYC.

[TrumpBritt24]

Return of the Mack!

Add Carter to a growing list of DemSoc failures.

The Biden Administration will be the death of the progressive left, for better or worse.

The 'insurgent' left is certainly in decline, I think 2020 and Jan6  turned a lot of Dem voters away from those that care more about appearances and infallibility. The 'cooperative' or 'legislative' left though appears to doing fine and may gain even more prominence if Wiley wins in NYC.

I'm not the biggest Wiley fan but I'll meet you at more Gillibrands or Bookers in Congress.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

As a leftist, I’m glad Carter is gone cause he’s a douche, makes the whole movement looks bad. Saying his defeat is the death of the “insurgent left” is way premature and simplified, also the woman who beat him is a progressive. It also seems like some more moderate delegates lost to more left candidates, but I can’t quite tell cause Heretick also had some corruption charges which likely played into it

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Virginia and the Democratic Party will be much better off once he's officially out of office.

Definitely will not be — you should google the lady who's replacing him!

What's wrong with her? She seems pretty progressive from what I know so far.

[Donerail]

Add Carter to a growing list of DemSoc failures.

Update: 2.8% LMAO

The Biden Administration will be the death of the progressive left, for better or worse.

Carter's local DSA chapter declined to endorse him. His bid was a one-man vanity project.

Virginia and the Democratic Party will be much better off once he's officially out of office.

Definitely will not be — you should google the lady who's replacing him!

What's wrong with her? She seems pretty progressive from what I know so far.

She runs a "mindfulness-centered" leadership training firm. It doesn’t signal bad politics (though there’s certainly a correlation), but it’s the sort of cringey HR-ified cultural liberalism that this forum seems to dislike.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Woof Carter went down in flames. Embarrassing to say the least.

[LtNOWIS]

As a leftist, I’m glad Carter is gone cause he’s a douche, makes the whole movement looks bad. Saying his defeat is the death of the “insurgent left” is way premature and simplified, also the woman who beat him is a progressive. It also seems like some more moderate delegates lost to more left candidates, but I can’t quite tell cause Heretick also had some corruption charges which likely played into it

Of the 4 defeated Dem incumbents, I believe 3 were defeated by more centrist candidates (Carter, Levine, Samirah), while Heretick was the only one beaten from the left.

Of course there were other issues at play in all cases. Temperament, corruption, or blatantly abandoning the district to seek a higher office. "More centrist" doesn't mean "actually centrist" in these cases, it just means being less of jerk about it.

Broadly you're correct, this isn't the death knell for anything. Virginia's an establishment state that had a good night for the establishment.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Add Carter to a growing list of DemSoc failures.

Update: 2.8% LMAO

The Biden Administration will be the death of the progressive left, for better or worse.

Carter's local DSA chapter declined to endorse him. His bid was a one-man vanity project.

Virginia and the Democratic Party will be much better off once he's officially out of office.

Definitely will not be — you should google the lady who's replacing him!

What's wrong with her? She seems pretty progressive from what I know so far.

She runs a "mindfulness-centered" leadership training firm. It doesn’t signal bad politics (though there’s certainly a correlation), but it’s the sort of cringey HR-ified cultural liberalism that this forum seems to dislike.

Eh, that's cringey but nothing on the level of what Lee has been like for the past year. Although it's kind of interesting how despite a somewhat thorough browsing of that site I still have no clue what they actually do.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Woof Carter went down in flames. Embarrassing to say the least.

You love to see it

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The Lt. Governor map is so pleasing to the eyes (With the exception of Danville City and Pittsylvania).

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2021/virginia/lieutenant-governor/

[libertpaulian]

Welp.

Lee Sharter has gone down. Let's hope that this is a sign of what's to come for Nina Turner in August, as well as for John Fetterman and The Squad in their primaries next year.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Welp.

Lee Sharter has gone down. Let's hope that this is a sign of what's to come for Nina Turner in August, as well as for John Fetterman and The Squad in their primaries next year.

None of the people you are talking about are running a pointless vanity campaign for a higher office at the same time, and don't spend most of their free time engaging in silly Trump-esque feuds with blue checkmarked journalists as well as people who aren't notable for any reason aside from being extremely online on Twitter.

[Crumpets]

Genuine question:

will the democrats have single election this year or early next that doesn't contain at least SOME good news for them?

Besides the texas jungle they got locked out of, they have done well in both margin and turnout everywhere.

Hopefully if congress is 100% stagnant for the next year, that could damper things, but I am sick and tired of y'all being able to hang your hat on something.

lol

It's just bizarre. Barack Obama was on another planet than biden when it came to excitement and enthusiasm, and even he couldn't help what was a putrid 2009 and 2010 for democrats.

It has to end sometime, doesn't it? This endless string of good election news for them?

I personally don’t think it will be enough to save them from have a not very good midterm, but I get the genuine impression that the Obama years and subsequent Trump presidency taught many Dem voters a lesson - that it does matter that a GOP with little interest in anything but power, demagoguery, and obstruction should be stopped. I really think McConnell’s Supreme Court antics were a tangible illustration of the extent to which the GOP will use its power that even lower-propensity voting Dems could fully appreciate the stakes. I think Dems finally appreciate the full extent of what GOP control means - hence the GA runoff results which defied traditional runoff performance for Ds. The changing nature of the Dem electorate is certainly playing a role as well. Make no mistake though, the GOP will get their voters out by employing the tactics they often use as well.

This is what is so puzzling though. The bush years, complete with the horrible war, crashed economy, gay marriage bans, etc, didn't keep dems motivated at all past the 2008 election. Once Obama won, there was a easily observable crash in dem interest in elections and turnout.

Just my personal take, but I think first time voters in 2008 were brought out by a very idealized and optimistic image promoted by Obama, and when that high bar was not met, a lot of that group became disillusioned and stayed home. Democrats (maybe with Bernie 2016 as an exception) have been running on an agenda that makes the obstruction on the right much clearer, as opposed to some of the loftier goals that Obama's softer supporters were really looking forward to in those first couple years.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Welp.

Lee Sharter has gone down. Let's hope that this is a sign of what's to come for Nina Turner in August, as well as for John Fetterman and The Squad in their primaries next year.

I'm not a Fetterman fan and would far prefer Lamb or Kenyatta, but I don't think he fits into this company. He's proven himself a decent public servant, is the only executive in this list, and doesn't keep on doing oopsie antisemitisms.

He's kind of like a more culturally liberal Tester.

[KaiserDave]

Welp.

Lee Sharter has gone down. Let's hope that this is a sign of what's to come for Nina Turner in August, as well as for John Fetterman and The Squad in their primaries next year.

lol


Anyways, great news to see Carter lose to someone who actually cares about Virginians.

[LtNOWIS]

The Lt. Governor map is so pleasing to the eyes (With the exception of Danville City and Pittsylvania).

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2021/virginia/lieutenant-governor/

Also Alexandria City, which was carried by Mark Levine. He got a resounding 30% of the vote in his home city. You can't see it as easily on that map, but it stands out pretty well on the VPAP map.

https://www.vpap.org/electionresults/20210608/office-lt-governor/

[Interlocutor is just not there yet]

Insert "lol Carter" comment here

But seriously, lol Jackson Miller