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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #325 on: May 26, 2021, 09:52:12 PM »

This is our 55th or 56th seat opportunity and it probably means PR Statehood not just DC statehood until I see a real poll I am not gonna bother with donations.

But, Rs are 9 pts down on a QU Generic ballot because the voters see them blocking the Commission
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« Reply #326 on: June 04, 2021, 08:13:07 PM »

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« Reply #327 on: June 04, 2021, 08:21:16 PM »



I actually really liked that video tbh. Interested in this dude
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« Reply #328 on: June 05, 2021, 09:10:50 AM »
« Edited: June 05, 2021, 09:17:35 AM by Miramarian »



This dude seems pretty cool, and like DTC, I'm intrigued by this video. I like his anti-career politician message and his experience at the local level.

If he's such a good executive, though, why not run for the governorship? He'd be better than either Crist or Fired.

Also, I wonder what the Miamians who elected him to be their commissioner think about him. Razze?
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« Reply #329 on: June 05, 2021, 01:02:34 PM »

This race is down in importance than OH, IA or NC, it's the 56th seat and we have a better chance with Fink, D's aren't GONNA donate that much to this race
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« Reply #330 on: June 09, 2021, 05:57:13 AM »

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« Reply #331 on: June 09, 2021, 06:04:32 AM »

Here’s the official tweet and video:

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« Reply #332 on: June 09, 2021, 06:22:22 AM »

Demings has the best shot out of anyone to beat Rubio.

Obviously an uphill battle, but the 'defund the police' and 'socialism' stuff won't land on her at least.

Also very smart of her to put an emphasis straight out of the gate that she lowered crime during her tenure.
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« Reply #333 on: June 09, 2021, 06:47:32 AM »
« Edited: June 09, 2021, 07:14:09 AM by UWS »

Demings is just another puppet of the Defund the Police movement as she supported the Minneapolis City Council's proposal to defund the police, calling it a reasonable proposal. In fact, last year multiple members of the Minneapolis City Council said they would "begin the process of ending (not only defunding but dismantling) the Minneapolis Police Department," Demings said in a CBS News interview that she believed "the council is being very thoughtful in terms of looking at all of the services that police provide." This is not thoughtful, this is radical, dangerous and uncaring and lead to more crime, murders and drugs.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rubio-demings-socialism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kSbrD78O78

That's why Florida will stay red and I wouldn't be surprised if Rubio does even better than he did in his last senate race in 2016.
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« Reply #334 on: June 09, 2021, 08:07:40 AM »

i'm not going to get too optimistic. Florida will never do the right thing. Though the one Democrat they would vote for would be the former cop, lol.

Demings seems fine, though. And if she's our best chance to win, then so be it. Rubio sucks.
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« Reply #335 on: June 09, 2021, 08:30:30 AM »

DS ARENT WINNING FL AND DeSANTIS is 10pts ahead of Crist and Fried
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« Reply #336 on: June 09, 2021, 08:35:42 AM »

DeSantis isn't loosing with Rubio it was only close in 2018 because Rick Scott not Rubio was on the ballot and Scott is a target in 2024

DeSantis gave 1000 cheques
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« Reply #337 on: June 09, 2021, 09:18:12 AM »

Demings will lose. She might keep Rubio within 5%, but an actual victory, especially in a Democratic midterm and in a Republican-leaning state like Florida, is hard to envision.
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« Reply #338 on: June 09, 2021, 09:33:22 AM »

Good video, though I would focused less on the orange buffoon and more address economic issues. Demings for sure is an A-tier candidate and our best shot to bring down Rubio, who's a spineless coward. Her law enforcement background is definitely helpful and makes "Defund the police" fearmongering attacks fall flat.

Anyway, Lean R for now. It's a Dem-midterm and FL is a slightly red leaning state. These are severe obstacles to overcome in a closely divided state. However, if Demings loses by more than 4 pts without major campaign errors, it tells us that candidate quality in FL really doesn't matter much, if anything. It's not a must win pickup, but it would be bittersweet to retire Rubio and likely protect or expand our senate majority.
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« Reply #339 on: June 09, 2021, 11:12:58 AM »

Give her the money y’all gave Amy McGrath’s wack campaign.
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« Reply #340 on: June 09, 2021, 11:15:18 AM »

Good video, though I would focused less on the orange buffoon and more address economic issues. Demings for sure is an A-tier candidate and our best shot to bring down Rubio, who's a spineless coward. Her law enforcement background is definitely helpful and makes "Defund the police" fearmongering attacks fall flat.

Anyway, Lean R for now. It's a Dem-midterm and FL is a slightly red leaning state. These are severe obstacles to overcome in a closely divided state. However, if Demings loses by more than 4 pts without major campaign errors, it tells us that candidate quality in FL really doesn't matter much, if anything. It's not a must win pickup, but it would be bittersweet to retire Rubio and likely protect or expand our senate majority.

I get that this entire 'candidate quality' discourse is extremely subjective and volatile and all, but in what universe is Val Demings an A-tier candidate or even a particularly strong recruit? If your main criterion for "strong candidate" is "can energize an already largely energized base without appealing to any center-right/Trump voters/R-trending cohort," then I agree that she’s a strong candidate, but I think we know how this movie ends by now, don’t we?
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« Reply #341 on: June 09, 2021, 12:00:11 PM »

Good video, though I would focused less on the orange buffoon and more address economic issues. Demings for sure is an A-tier candidate and our best shot to bring down Rubio, who's a spineless coward. Her law enforcement background is definitely helpful and makes "Defund the police" fearmongering attacks fall flat.

Anyway, Lean R for now. It's a Dem-midterm and FL is a slightly red leaning state. These are severe obstacles to overcome in a closely divided state. However, if Demings loses by more than 4 pts without major campaign errors, it tells us that candidate quality in FL really doesn't matter much, if anything. It's not a must win pickup, but it would be bittersweet to retire Rubio and likely protect or expand our senate majority.

I get that this entire 'candidate quality' discourse is extremely subjective and volatile and all, but in what universe is Val Demings an A-tier candidate or even a particularly strong recruit? If your main criterion for "strong candidate" is "can energize an already largely energized base without appealing to any center-right/Trump voters/R-trending cohort," then I agree that she’s a strong candidate, but I think we know how this movie ends by now, don’t we?

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)
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« Reply #342 on: June 09, 2021, 12:02:07 PM »

Change, I enthusiastically support Deming's
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« Reply #343 on: June 09, 2021, 12:16:33 PM »

Good video, though I would focused less on the orange buffoon and more address economic issues. Demings for sure is an A-tier candidate and our best shot to bring down Rubio, who's a spineless coward. Her law enforcement background is definitely helpful and makes "Defund the police" fearmongering attacks fall flat.

Anyway, Lean R for now. It's a Dem-midterm and FL is a slightly red leaning state. These are severe obstacles to overcome in a closely divided state. However, if Demings loses by more than 4 pts without major campaign errors, it tells us that candidate quality in FL really doesn't matter much, if anything. It's not a must win pickup, but it would be bittersweet to retire Rubio and likely protect or expand our senate majority.

I get that this entire 'candidate quality' discourse is extremely subjective and volatile and all, but in what universe is Val Demings an A-tier candidate or even a particularly strong recruit? If your main criterion for "strong candidate" is "can energize an already largely energized base without appealing to any center-right/Trump voters/R-trending cohort," then I agree that she’s a strong candidate, but I think we know how this movie ends by now, don’t we?

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

I have to agree with IndyRep on this one, Demings hasn't really done anything to distinguish herself as a particularly strong candidate. The hype for her as a a candidate for Senate/Governor next year is build entirely off of VP speculation from last year (which even then, was completely unearned for a 2-term backbencher in the House).
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« Reply #344 on: June 09, 2021, 12:43:00 PM »

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.
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« Reply #345 on: June 09, 2021, 12:58:38 PM »

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The Rs talk about Law and Order and she is a former cop, again, at this point she is an underdog but don't count out the blue wave in 500 days

In the post Insurrectionists era law and order appeals to Indies and Gaetz is still in Congress after Boehner told Rangel to resign, the hypocrisy of RS and it Maxine Waters initiated the Insurrectionists, she would be in jail
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« Reply #346 on: June 09, 2021, 01:14:15 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2021, 02:32:20 PM by UWS »

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

How can you vote 100 % of the time with Nancy Pelosi and 94 % of the time with the Squad (including 95 % with Ayanna Pressley) and not be a socialist? That kind of record shows how close it is to socialism.

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/D000627-val-demings/compare-votes/P000197-nancy-pelosi/116

No wonder that despite the fact that Florida has the 9th highest gas taxes in the country and the 8th state taxes as percentage of gas price (17.8 %) and that gas prices climbed at their highest rate since 2014 ($2.99), Demings supports the Green New Deal co-sponsored by Alexandria Occasio-Cortez and Kamala Harris that would cost $2 trillion, raise taxes and regulations, ban fracking and abolish fossil fuel and crush American energy. And Biden's decision to stop oil drilling in ANWR will worsen the situation.

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2021/01/28/states-with-the-lowest-and-highest-gas-taxes-2/10/

https://www.nrcc.org/2021/05/11/gas-prices-highest-since-2014/

https://gasprices.aaa.com/gas-prices-jump-six-cents-on-week-likely-to-climb-higher-with-major-pipeline-shutdown/

https://demings.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-demings-announces-support-economic-renewal-agenda

There clearly isn't any better word to describe that kind of record and philosophy : socialism.
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« Reply #347 on: June 09, 2021, 01:32:58 PM »

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous
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« Reply #348 on: June 09, 2021, 01:38:33 PM »

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

I agree with you for the most part, but I disagree that this makes a difference. Demings can't just sit on her hands - she'll have to prove her non-socialist credentials, and even then many people believe all Democrats are socialists anyway, though granted most of those are Republicans.
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« Reply #349 on: June 09, 2021, 01:45:18 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2021, 01:51:16 PM by UWS »

Bc she's basically the antithesis (or closest) of a Democratic candidate could be to the GOP's talking points (defund the police, socialism, etc.)

Err.... Val Demings is a reliable liberal and literally served as House impeachment manager in Trump's impeachment trial. She’s very easy to paint as some out-of-touch partisan and would have close to zero crossover appeal in a GE. The idea that Republicans won’t be able to paint her as a career politician who embodies "GOP talking points" is ludicrous.

The only worthwhile attack the GOP has right now that made a difference was socialism and crime, not really 'career politician'. And Demings is clearly not a socialist, and her police record shows you can't hit her on crime, really.

To say she has 'zero crossover appeal' in the GE is ridiculous

There is a difference between what she does in Orlando and what she does in Congress.
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