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« on: November 07, 2020, 05:26:35 PM »

Even though Biden won in 2020, it seems like tipping point state will end up being a good 4-5% to the right of the country, which will be worse than the 3% split from last time. Considering that much of the safe blue states like CA, IL, and NY are on par to lose electoral votes, while states like NC, FL, and TX are projected to gain, this could be problematic for Democrats in 2024. The other thing to consider is that it's not even like Democrats are maxed out in CA, WA, or many other blue states; and it seems like conservatives are not moving to places like CA and WA, which unintentionally makes them vote sinks for Democrats in a way. How should Democrats start tackling this issue?
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2020, 05:30:32 PM »

Operation Carpetbagger. Could have started last month by moving 200K liberals to Georgia for the runoff.

The Senate and EC will become even worse in the future.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2020, 05:37:13 PM »

Operation Carpetbagger. Could have started last month by moving 200K liberals to Georgia for the runoff.

The Senate and EC will become even worse in the future.

Fun fact; if Republicans did as well as Democrats did the last 3 cycles, they would control the senate 65-35. It's amazing that the flip of that is going to be a tie at best.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2020, 05:37:33 PM »

I'm not sure. I feel like people will assume Biden's presidency was too moderate, vote in some uber-progressive or socialist candidate, then lose in a landslide despite having great enthusiasm. I feel like some effort needs to be made to form a coalition that keeps all six key constituents happy; suburbanites, blacks, Hispanics, leftists, moderate liberals, and young people.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2020, 05:38:52 PM »

Flip Texas and nothing else matters. It's more flippable than Florida. It just needs an all liberal, all the time candidate who plays in a Guy Picciotto tribute band.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2020, 05:39:33 PM »

The Democrats don't have an EC problem.
The Republicans have an EC problem.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2020, 06:04:00 PM »

Nothing.
Even if current trends continue (which some won’t) there is a peak EV/PV efficiency gap for the Democrats in the Senate. I expect it to happen around 2024-2030 before the peak hits and the gap lowers.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2020, 06:29:43 PM »

Destroying ballots obviously.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 07:44:27 PM »

End the EC
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2020, 07:58:56 PM »

That problem will start looking a lot less pressing once Texas, Georgia, and North Carolina are brought into the fold more permanently. In as little as a decade that advantage is going to be really hard for the GOP to overcome, even if they get strangleholds on the Blue Wall.

The Senate is another matter. It looks like Biden is going to win with 25 states, with many of those coming down to the wire, and that math just isn't good for Democrats, especially since some of the Biden states seem to be trending right. The fact that some of the states trending left (GA, NC, TX) are so huge is also going to exacerbate an existing issue with vote inefficiency. I maintain that the best chance for a better balance of power is statehood for PR and DC, if not more territories, but this election looked like it might have been the best shot for the foreseeable future, and that's looking more grim unless GA Dems pull a rabbit out of a hat.
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