Biden approval ratings thread, 1.0

[pbrower2a]

50/42 in ABC/WashPo. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/context/june-27-30-2021-washington-post-abc-news-poll/9f67b281-b289-4e67-a9e1-9515018d7e90/?itid=lk_inline_manual_2

Crosstabs suggest almost nothing has changed since last fall.

After five months, the honeymoon is over, President Biden is no longer in campaign mode, and political life is as divisive as ever. With Senators and Governors, approval numbers typically drop about 6% from electoral results as the politicians start legislating or governing. It's about the same for both Senators and Governors, and the Presidency usually has an ex-Governor or ex-Senator and operates somewhat as a composite of governing as if a State governor or legislating as if a US Senator. A 6% drop from the electoral result to the approval rating is the norm. It was about the same for such very different Presidents as Obama and Trump -- Obama being above average and Trump dreadful.

The approval numbers suggest that Joe Biden is doing much right. He's not getting away with much.  If the political climate is changing, then that is hard to see. He's not going after Republicans for the Putsch of January 6 or (which people might be tempted to forget because it is getting old and is not in their state) the Michigan plot, which has much the same ideology behind it. President Biden leaves that to the courts of law, where such things are best decided. He has refrained from attacking Donald Trump as a person, much unlike Trump smearing Obama at every opportunity in his early months as President. 

Joe Biden has obviously handled COVID-19 well as a medical emergency and as an economic stress. We shall see what follows between now and 2024. .     

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden was at 55% near 60%Approvals when 1400 Stimulus checks were passed what difference between Trump and Biden is there now, since Stimulus checks are gone, UBI payments are quite popular and Yang wants them to continue and 60 D's have signed into them, but Biden is selling this infrastructure deal, that doesn't immediately help consumers with debt, the 300 payments are child tax credits, what about debt

What about gas prices they are higher than under Trump

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Another note about Stimulus payments it's not just a blanket free check to give to people it's expensive to live in certain areas AZ, CO, LA, HI, SF, Miami, NY are the most expensive places to live and we are still in a Pandemic

If you are near or below the poverty line even with your based income you are gonna struggle

[Devils30]

I think people are discounting the idea Biden's approval could be 52/46 in 2022 and Ds could keep House with a D+6 generic ballot. I don't expect much space between Biden's net approval and the generic congressional vote at all.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Redistricting is gonna depend on Cali, TX and FL

IA, KS, OH are gone and we don't know how many seats in NY and IL

But yeah if Cali Redistrict 6 Rs out of it, they can make up for TX and FL which could be 3 loss D's each

[Devils30]

The Redistricting is gonna depend on Cali, TX and FL

IA, KS, OH are gone and we don't know how many seats in NY and IL

But yeah if Cali Redistrict 6 Rs out of it, they can make up for TX and FL which could be 3 loss D's each

Trump won 8 TX districts with under 50%, Rs are going to use this to shore up current members but I don't expect them to reduce any of the 13 Ds, they'll go for 25-13.

[Devils30]

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/07/04/gov-abbott-rebounds-against-possible-challenger-matthew-mcconaughey-has-razor-thin-edge-over-actor/

Biden at 47/42 in TX per Dallas Morning News poll.

[pbrower2a]

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/07/04/gov-abbott-rebounds-against-possible-challenger-matthew-mcconaughey-has-razor-thin-edge-over-actor/

Biden at 47/42 in TX per Dallas Morning News poll.

47-42 is not as good as 52-47... but President Biden will not need Texas in 2024.

Key:

30% red shade: Biden up 1-5%
40% red shade: Biden up 5-10%
50% red shade: Biden up 10-15%
60% red shade: Biden up 15-20%
70% red shade: Biden up 20-25%
80% red shade: Biden up 25-30%
90% red shade: Biden up 30%+

50% green shade: tie

30% blue shade: Biden down 1-5%
40% blue shade: Biden down 5-10%
50% blue shade: Biden down 10-15%
60% blue shade: Biden down 15-20%
70% blue shade: Biden down 20-25%
80% blue shade: Biden down 25-30%
90% blue shade: Biden down 30%+

Five months after inauguration, an incumbent whose approval numbers are where the voting results were is doing fine. Not everything succeeds. Typically the entertainment media lampoon high-profile incumbents. Well, the lampooning is still heavily the ex-President and some Republican pols. In need give no names.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I am still open to voting for Biden in 2024, but in the last couple weeks with the two-track infrastructure debacle and some of the creepy whispering stuff, seeing some soft supporters shift away.

Despite pbower2A maps you know full well it's a 304 map and it's a 50/42% Approval rating the same as it was as in Nov 2020/pbower2A always show D's performing better than they usually do, he had Biden winning TX last time as he of course lost the state

Biden is a mediocre Prez, not a 413 Prez

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/07/04/gov-abbott-rebounds-against-possible-challenger-matthew-mcconaughey-has-razor-thin-edge-over-actor/

Biden at 47/42 in TX per Dallas Morning News poll.

Lone Star Joe.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

McCounghey isn't even running

[GeorgiaModerate]

IBD/TIPP (monthly), June 30-July 2, 1424 adults including 1145 RV

Adults:

Approve 50 (-3)
Disapprove 37 (+5)

RV:

Approve 54 (-5)
Disapprove 38 (+6)

[GP270watch]

 Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to be remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

Biden is a 304 map Prez, there isn't much he can do without nuking the Filibuster because Manchin and Sinema is holding onto their promise they won't nuke it

The easy part was passing those 1400 checks which was a campaign promise, thru Reconciliation, everything else including infrastructure is being held up thru the Filibuster and Manchin isn't signing into infrastructure or renewing Extending Unemployment without a bipartisan infrastructure plan

[Person Man]

How many of these people who are having second thoughts about him are liberals?

[GeorgiaModerate]

How many of these people who are having second thoughts about him are liberals?

That's an interesting question.  In the latest Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, the breakdown by ideology is:

Liberal: 88/8 (strongly 54/5)
Moderate: 58/32 (strongly 24/22)
Conservative: 13/83 (strongly 4/66)

Going back to a month after Biden took office (poll dates Feb. 27-March 2) it was:

Liberal: 84/9 (strongly 61/3)
Moderate: 61/30 (strongly 38/20)
Conservative: 16/79 (strongly 7/67)

Of course, this is only two samples (if someone wants a project, it might be interesting to plot the history of this across the YouGov trackers). But in this comparison, Biden has gained a bit among liberals (+75 to +80) while losing a little among both moderates (+31 to +26) and conservatives (-63 to -70).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

How many of these people who are having second thoughts about him are liberals?

Stop nickpicking it's 500 days til the Election and WI and PA are guarenteed flips and we can win OH, NC and IA Sen races to make a blue wave happen for the H, it doesn't take much, it takes a while anyways for a blue 🌊🌊🌊🌊

Just wait and watch for 500 days, we are gonna have a boom Economy next yr

[Progressive Pessimist]

Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

You can blame Manchin and Sinema above all else, almost single-handedly, honestly. I don't know if most Americans will assign that blame where it belongs, but this is the reality of our current state.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

You can blame Manchin and Sinema above all else, almost single-handedly, honestly. I don't know if most Americans will assign that blame where it belongs, but this is the reality of our current state.

Feinstein and Rosen also says they're not open to Filibuster reform and Tester says Americans don't need another 1K check, so it's really a group of 5 not just 2 but Sinema is the lone holdout because she  will never vote to change the filibuster

In a tied Senate, it's so easy for Rs to retaliate if the Filibuster goes against, hold up nominations and stage walk outs, D's need more seats anyways

[Mr.Phips]

Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

You can blame Manchin and Sinema above all else, almost single-handedly, honestly. I don't know if most Americans will assign that blame where it belongs, but this is the reality of our current state.

Nobody should have expected Biden to get anything done other than the COVID relief bill.  The days of “transformational presidents” who get a lot done are over.

[Person Man]

Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

You can blame Manchin and Sinema above all else, almost single-handedly, honestly. I don't know if most Americans will assign that blame where it belongs, but this is the reality of our current state.

Nobody should have expected Biden to get anything done other than the COVID relief bill.  The days of “transformational presidents” who get a lot done are over.

I'm sure that era will come again but at what cost?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why is Angry Weasel DOOMING and the Election is 590 days from now, D's are in Excellent position to hold the Senate and if s blue wave happens, which we don't know yet, we will have more seats to get things done

This, is what Trump and Rs want you you to believe that they are already gonna assume control and it's over, which it's clearly not

[GeorgiaModerate]

The Economist/YouGov weekly tracker, July 3-6, 1500 adults inclduing 1281 RV

Adults:

Approve 51 (+3)
Disapprove 40 (-3)

Strongly approve 27 (+3)
Strongly disapprove 31 (-1)


RV:

Approve 51 (+1)
Disapprove 44 (-2)

Strongly approve 29 (+2)
Strongly disapprove 35 (+1)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Well, the polls still show a 51/49% Approvals, but Congress still won't discuss a fourth Stimulus check that would elevate Biden Approvals

Stimulus checks aren't, it's obviously, only 1K not 10K to be issued to sit at home, it's to make our lives better and get out of debt, Record bankruptcies, if you need a job as a lawyer, Bankruptcy is the job for you, that's why people still aren't paying their student loans.

You must have at all times 1K in your bank account

[Mr. Smith]

Biden's agenda has stalled. Where is the transformational President who we were hearing wanted to remembered like FDR for providing reforms and policy changes for regular Americans? He isn't using all the tools in his toolbox to get meaningful things passed.

You can blame Manchin and Sinema above all else, almost single-handedly, honestly. I don't know if most Americans will assign that blame where it belongs, but this is the reality of our current state.

Nobody should have expected Biden to get anything done other than the COVID relief bill.  The days of “transformational presidents” who get a lot done are over.

I'm sure that era will come again but at what cost?

Not one greater than where things are.

But y'know what, this was inevitable. Biden was never an agent of change so needed, and besides the Jacobins of the world, most of the left largely ceded that just to beat a mere symptom.

This is the hill chosen to die on.