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« Reply #2475 on: October 01, 2021, 09:25:15 AM »

AP/NORC, Sep. 23-27, 1099 adults (change from mid-August)

Approve 50 (-4)
Disapprove 49 (+3)

Strongly approve 18 (-6)
Strongly disapprove 32 (+2)

Another all-time low for Biden. Yesterday, it was Morning Consult. Earlier this week Rasmussen.




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« Reply #2476 on: October 01, 2021, 10:05:16 AM »

AP/NORC, Sep. 23-27, 1099 adults (change from mid-August)

Approve 50 (-4)
Disapprove 49 (+3)

Strongly approve 18 (-6)
Strongly disapprove 32 (+2)

Another all-time low for Biden. Yesterday, it was Morning Consult. Earlier this week Rasmussen.




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« Reply #2477 on: October 01, 2021, 11:47:51 AM »

Probably the low point. He can´t convince his hardened opposition, but who can? Trump couldn´t convince his, either, so this says more about America than about our politicians. At the least President Biden isn´t a thoroughly hideous person as was (and is) President Trump.

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« Reply #2478 on: October 01, 2021, 12:11:04 PM »

“I’m sure this will be the low point”
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« Reply #2479 on: October 01, 2021, 06:29:44 PM »

Ron DeSantis is is up 10 pts on Crist and Fried that race is OVER.
D's aren't winning 55 seats it's 52 or 53 depends on OH, GA or NC
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« Reply #2480 on: October 01, 2021, 06:31:50 PM »


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« Reply #2481 on: October 01, 2021, 06:35:19 PM »

Socialized medicine, in the face of budget Debt Ceiling crisis and SSA checks might not be mailed on time

Border control issues and Biden not enforcing wall lead to Abbott and DeSantis easily getting reelected
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« Reply #2482 on: October 02, 2021, 12:54:54 AM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.
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« Reply #2483 on: October 02, 2021, 03:51:26 AM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.
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« Reply #2484 on: October 02, 2021, 07:06:09 AM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.
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« Reply #2485 on: October 02, 2021, 08:05:08 AM »

Jan 6th is old news, Trump isn't gonna be Prez anyways, HE WAS A 46.9% PREZ not a 60% Approval Prez like he Acts like he was. but spending 3T dollars in the face of budget DEFICITS is gonna be hard

The Debt Ceiling increase is due Oct 18th and Biden needs R support to increase it, he promised Bipartisanship and he hasn't invited one R to WH since infrastructure bill in Summer time

Minting a trillion dollar coin is THE LAST RESORT, Schumer is gonna dare Rs to block the Debt Ceiling increase again and the Rs will block it again, the D's have 2 wks to pass the Dent Ceiling increase and they won't start the Reconciliation Bill

But, FL and TX are lost due to illegals immigration and Parliamentary denied immigration reform, at least in short term

Demings is only down by 4
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« Reply #2486 on: October 02, 2021, 10:00:24 AM »

Jan 6th is old news, Trump isn't gonna be Prez anyways, HE WAS A 46.9% PREZ not a 60% Approval Prez like he Acts like he was. but spending 3T dollars in the face of budget DEFICITS is gonna be hard

The Debt Ceiling increase is due Oct 18th and Biden needs R support to increase it, he promised Bipartisanship and he hasn't invited one R to WH since infrastructure bill in Summer time

Minting a trillion dollar coin is THE LAST RESORT, Schumer is gonna dare Rs to block the Debt Ceiling increase again and the Rs will block it again, the D's have 2 wks to pass the Dent Ceiling increase and they won't start the Reconciliation Bill

But, FL and TX are lost due to illegals immigration and Parliamentary denied immigration reform, at least in short term

Demings is only down by 4

January 6 is a day of shame for many Republicans who fail to recognize that just because they win a primary election does not mean that they are shoo-ins for re-election. December 7, September 11, January 6... there will be living people who remember all three dates in 2022 and 2024 having been past toddler age when those dates became immediately and indelibly infamous. .

Many Republicans botched the response to COVID-19. They got away with it at first because the first people to die in large numbers were older members of minority groups, especially in such areas as Atlanta, Detroit, Las Vegas, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Philadelphia (get it!) who were going to vote Democratic if at all... but COVID-19 is now decimating populations on the Right side of the political spectrum.  It's people on the Right side of the spectrum who don''t wear masks and don't get inoculated who contract COVID-19 and die... now. 

President Biden is gambling that Republicans either see goodies for their conservative states worth voting for or risk being defeated by Democrats in the next election. There might be some desirable highway and water projects. It's not a wild gamble. 
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« Reply #2487 on: October 02, 2021, 11:32:38 AM »

Of course the right militia groups are terrible the KKK which transformed into Proud Boys killed four Civil Rights leaders in sixties I am not downplaying but to southerners which we don't need to win the S it's like Impeachment, it's a 304 map right now, with the exception of GA

That's why, but Tim Ryan, Beasley and Demings are very close but the Border is out of control

That's why Trump will never be Prez ever again, he misreads the EC map, he has zero chance to win MI, PA and WI again and he only won them due to Gary Johnson 50K votes, he already has the red wall solidified due to Proud Boys, in the S that's, the males that join it said they have no friends it's a comrade to them
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« Reply #2488 on: October 02, 2021, 03:44:21 PM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)



No more washed-up than Ronald Reagan´s Presidency was in October 1981. If you wish to call the Obama Presidency a disaster... then what can you say of the Trump Presidency? (OK, Obama was an unmitigated disaster if you were Osama bin Laden, but that is something that no patriotic America could not cheer). Obama is an excellent model of behavior for a President. Much of the enthusiasm about President Biden is that he is not Donald Trump.

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Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also votepp d for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Since when is hurting the people who voted against one a good policy? That´s what Trump tried to do, and when one has the shakiest win of the Electoral College ever, one would wisely seek to find fresh supporters faster than one creates dissidents. Trump lost an election that a mediocre President should have won handily.

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Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Had President Trump handled COVID-19 right, then we would be through with it early in the his second term. Maybe not before, but the progress would be obvious because as a convincing leader people would have worn masks all winter while the vaccines rolled out. People would have never gotten quack medical advice because even his opponents would be getting inoculated.

We have never had a President who has shown such contempt for American lives as Donald Trump, at least since before the Civil War. (Slavery was contempt for life, in case you wonder about that exception). We have never had a President who so readily turned to catcalls when anyone called him out for a controversial policy. 

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Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.

Trump cut the deal and told the Taliban to go ahead after the US election was settled. At that the Taliban met the terms of the deal. Don´t you think that a free election would have been a more fitting end to the Afghan civil war? Then again, our 45th President showed contempt for electoral results that did not go his way.
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« Reply #2489 on: October 02, 2021, 03:50:13 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2021, 03:54:47 PM by Mr. Kanye West »

I watched Larry Ludlow on Sean Hannity, Last night except for Afghanistan he said D's are Demand side Economics and Rs are Reagan supply side but he said alot of damage done to the Economy is Covid related not Govt related, he had nothing bad to say about Biden and he said he is doing a decent job as is Sinema and Manchin. On controlling spending and this isn't what he said but Biden was there with Obama as Veep when Boehner and Reid reached deals on Debt Ceiling fight on GOP budget caps, Pelosi wants to spend 4T dollars she won't get unless D's win the TRIFECTA and net gain seats after 2022

Especially, STUDENT LOAN DEBT, BUT IN ORDER TO GET IT DISCHARGED YOU MUCH HAVE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP, Biden VOTED FOR BANKRUPTCY REFORM BILL IN 2005, like Disability or Senior citizen Disability


But, males can be a Cop or Military officer to pay off their student loans but you must be under 35
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« Reply #2490 on: October 02, 2021, 06:36:33 PM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.



Agreed, and I've been critical of Biden on some things, namely Afghanistan.

But I'm tired of Trump voters acting like they suddenly give a damn when their guy literally tried to overthrow our entire government.  Everything else pales in comparison to that.
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« Reply #2491 on: October 02, 2021, 11:17:27 PM »

We still have a Filibuster on the Senate and Sinema isn't getting rid of it, Sinema even in the H was bipartisan, she's not getting rid of Filibuster, only after 2022, should Ds expand their Majority in Congress will the Filibuster be Eliminated

We're not finished with Covid yet, did Rs really think that we would be living in 2019 Environment or before, just because Biden got Elected, no, Trump  pretended at end of campaign that Covid didn't didn't even exist with Proud Boys, he said CNN, all they talk about is Covid, in his SUPER SPREADER RALLIES, THATS WHY HE LOST

D's Sinema and Manchin aren't getting rid of Fillibuster on Debt Ceiling or VR so forget it, it won't end until 2023 at earliest and D's have to keep the H and get 52 SEN votes to do it, it won't matter if Rs take the H
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« Reply #2492 on: October 03, 2021, 12:52:12 AM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.



Agreed, and I've been critical of Biden on some things, namely Afghanistan.

But I'm tired of Trump voters acting like they suddenly give a damn when their guy literally tried to overthrow our entire government.  Everything else pales in comparison to that.

I understand what you're saying also. It is unfortunate that the events of January 6 have already been forgotten by most Americans.
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« Reply #2493 on: October 03, 2021, 09:40:50 AM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.



Agreed, and I've been critical of Biden on some things, namely Afghanistan.

But I'm tired of Trump voters acting like they suddenly give a damn when their guy literally tried to overthrow our entire government.  Everything else pales in comparison to that.

I understand what you're saying also. It is unfortunate that the events of January 6 have already been forgotten by most Americans.

This emboldens any group of nuts to do what they want.
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« Reply #2494 on: October 03, 2021, 10:41:03 AM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.



Agreed, and I've been critical of Biden on some things, namely Afghanistan.

But I'm tired of Trump voters acting like they suddenly give a damn when their guy literally tried to overthrow our entire government.  Everything else pales in comparison to that.

I understand what you're saying also. It is unfortunate that the events of January 6 have already been forgotten by most Americans.

So far the convictions are plea bargains, which is understandable for people who did not do or threaten violence and do not have prior convictions for crimes.  Plea bargains lack the drama of formal trials and are easy to forget. When people start getting the federal trials because they would risk twenty years to avoid one sure year or have no choice because they did or threatened violence or threatened national security, the trials will get media attention.

It's impossible to see how the Capitol Putsch will play in elections because it has yet to become an issue in any elections (except perhaps for the two run-off elections in Georgia for the US Senate seats being held that day!) Democrats have little to lose by exploiting it for political purposes against any incumbent Republican who didn't make a clear and prompt condemnation of the Putsch. If the two run-off elections in Georgia say anything, then the GOP is in deep trouble.

   
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« Reply #2495 on: October 03, 2021, 11:15:17 AM »
« Edited: October 03, 2021, 11:21:58 AM by Mr. Kanye West »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.



Agreed, and I've been critical of Biden on some things, namely Afghanistan.

But I'm tired of Trump voters acting like they suddenly give a damn when their guy literally tried to overthrow our entire government.  Everything else pales in comparison to that.

I understand what you're saying also. It is unfortunate that the events of January 6 have already been forgotten by most Americans.

So far the convictions are plea bargains, which is understandable for people who did not do or threaten violence and do not have prior convictions for crimes.  Plea bargains lack the drama of formal trials and are easy to forget. When people start getting the federal trials because they would risk twenty years to avoid one sure year or have no choice because they did or threatened violence or threatened national security, the trials will get media attention.

It's impossible to see how the Capitol Putsch will play in elections because it has yet to become an issue in any elections (except perhaps for the two run-off elections in Georgia for the US Senate seats being held that day!) Democrats have little to lose by exploiting it for political purposes against any incumbent Republican who didn't make a clear and prompt condemnation of the Putsch. If the two run-off elections in Georgia say anything, then the GOP is in deep trouble.

  

Demings Ryan are only down 4 pts a blue wave with IL, NY and CA Redistricting at stake can still happen, A 225H MAJORITY and a 53 seat or 54 seat Majority in the Senate can still happen

States don't always vote the way they should that's why Tester, Brown
and Manchin won in 2012 in a Prez yr and won again along with Sinema while Ducey and DeWine won OH and AZ in 2018

53 seats plus the H gives us DC Statehood and Ryan is overperforming in polls as well as Demings like Sherrod Brown, they should be down 8


CALTRINA DOESN'T BELIEVE IN WAVES LIKE ME OR YOU PBOWER2A, HE BELIEVES IN THE 304 map, if that's the case we shouldn't run Wave insurance candidates

Oh, NC and FL are still swing states but not tipping pt in a close Election, once we get 278 it's over anyways once we clinch WI
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« Reply #2496 on: October 03, 2021, 12:30:55 PM »

The issue for Biden's approval is that his Presidency has been washed up. In the beginning there was a wave of enthusiasm for him since there was a promised return to normal. The issue is people don't remember what normal was. The Obama era was a disaster for democrats and Biden's attempt to return to that era could potentially cause similar issues. Unlike Obama however, this time Democrats came in with the slimmest Congressional majorities in decades, thus killing any potential for significant legislation. DC statehood, HR1, whatever their priorities are were out the window in January when Sinema and Manchin were against removing the filibuster. That's basically half of whatever Biden's actual policy proposal was. (Not being Trump doesn't count as policy.)

Now they might not even get infrastructure through and even if the bipartisan bill passes, its not really something Democrats can campaign on in the midterms since Republicans also voted for it. If they somehow pull off a diluted reconciliation bill after this embarrassing failure, then that will be the final piece of Biden's agenda as he becomes a lame duck like Obama was for the next 2 or 6 years.

Covid isn't going away anytime soon, and the economy isn't roaring back either. The dust has pretty much settled on the virus, half the country is ready to move on, the other half doesn't want to go back to normal life anytime soon. Inflation is soaring, and there is no way this is simply transitory. If the White House is showing off that a 4th of July cookout is $0.16 cheaper than the previous year (when in reality it is more due to higher gas prices needed to buy the goods) then there is fundamentally something wrong.

Afghanistan was the biggest failure of the Biden Presidency. He ran on being a strong global leader but after August it was pretty obvious that Biden was incompetent on foreign policy. The American people recognized that and it put him underwater which he might not recover from, at least until 2022.



And your guy attempted a deadly coup after he lost re-election.

This doesn't negate what he said. Biden shouldn't be given a completely free pass just because of what happened on January 6.



Agreed, and I've been critical of Biden on some things, namely Afghanistan.

But I'm tired of Trump voters acting like they suddenly give a damn when their guy literally tried to overthrow our entire government.  Everything else pales in comparison to that.

I understand what you're saying also. It is unfortunate that the events of January 6 have already been forgotten by most Americans.

So far the convictions are plea bargains, which is understandable for people who did not do or threaten violence and do not have prior convictions for crimes.  Plea bargains lack the drama of formal trials and are easy to forget. When people start getting the federal trials because they would risk twenty years to avoid one sure year or have no choice because they did or threatened violence or threatened national security, the trials will get media attention.

It's impossible to see how the Capitol Putsch will play in elections because it has yet to become an issue in any elections (except perhaps for the two run-off elections in Georgia for the US Senate seats being held that day!) Democrats have little to lose by exploiting it for political purposes against any incumbent Republican who didn't make a clear and prompt condemnation of the Putsch. If the two run-off elections in Georgia say anything, then the GOP is in deep trouble.

  

Demings Ryan are only down 4 pts a blue wave with IL, NY and CA Redistricting at stake can still happen, A 225H MAJORITY and a 53 seat or 54 seat Majority in the Senate can still happen

States don't always vote the way they should that's why Tester, Brown
and Manchin won in 2012 in a Prez yr and won again along with Sinema while Ducey and DeWine won OH and AZ in 2018

53 seats plus the H gives us DC Statehood and Ryan is overperforming in polls as well as Demings like Sherrod Brown, they should be down 8


CALTRINA DOESN'T BELIEVE IN WAVES LIKE ME OR YOU PBOWER2A, HE BELIEVES IN THE 304 map, if that's the case we shouldn't run Wave insurance candidates

Oh, NC and FL are still swing states but not tipping pt in a close Election, once we get 278 it's over anyways once we clinch WI


I see waves and counter-waves in partisan politics. Wave elections are real, but those waves sweep in some political figures who show that they are not up to the job, prove to be extremists in 'moderate' communities, or ill fit the local culture. But these waves are small in contrast to the generational waves that reflect the values of older people dying off and younger people coming of age. For some people, voting is the personal deed that defines adulthood.

The constituencies behind Gingrich's Contract with America, the Tea Party, and the "Trump Train" are beginning to shrink rapidly as their oldest constituencies die off without obvious replacement. Oh, that's politics? The same thing holds with commerce, too. I look at old restaurant chains such as Howard Johnson's, Steak and Ale, Perkins',  and Big Boy that were once everywhere and are now nowhere. Maybe there is a fault with the chain. Howard Johnson's didn't adapt its menu to a changing America; Perkins' offered a nostalgia for an America that many Americans now find absurd and irrelevant; Big Boy stuck to over-priced hamburgers as the mainstay of its offerings when people could get food just as good at a fat-food place; Steak and Ale seemed too tied to norms of an English-Irish-German population when America was becoming less clearly English, Irish, and German. I also look at the traditional department store. If you are old enough you remember when Sears, JC Penney, and Montgomery-Ward were big players in shopping. As it turns out those places had little youth appeal back in the 1980's, and the only young people in such places were store employees or small children being dragged along by parents or grandparents. The average age of a customer in those bloated department stores was near sixty back in the mid-1980's, indicating that these places needed to find new customers if they were not going to become irrelevant and die. As it is, Montgomery-Ward is no more; Sears is dying; JC Penney is on life-support. Think also of the less-grand places such as G C Murphy, Woolworth's, Ames', and  M E Moses. Oh, you don't think of them because they are gone?

Any business model that depends upon  older customers must cultivate newer customers to offset those that go to that Great Shopping Mall in the Sky.. or whatever. Nursing homes remain in business and remain lucrative because people need them at a certain point in their lives; in those they end up spending whatever inheritance their children or grandchildren might otherwise expect. The giant department stores of the 1980's may have thought young people mostly as shoplifters (and they treated their employees as people who were going to steal from them because, as was well understood in the 1980's, young poor people were poor customers but likely embezzlers even if employees)... and lost the faith of potential customers that they would need twenty years later, Employees unfortunate enough to work in such places saw employment in those stores at best as ways in which to mark time while hating their jobs and the poverty that went with them before going elsewhere and did not stick around long enough to become potential innovators who knew what they were doing. 

American politics is modeled to no small degree on commerce, including a heavy reliance on advertising. A political agenda that appeals to people around age 45 in 1990 needs to find an adequate number of replacements in thirty years if it is to not age into irrelevancy.  What are people doing most reliably around age 75? Well, they are starting to go to that Great Shopping Center in the Sky instead of to the one close-by that has Sears and JC Penney as anchors... or whatever analogy you wish to give.

Ghosts are not reliable customers even around Halloween, and the nonagenarian age group just does not have the numbers to swing even the closest elections.       
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« Reply #2497 on: October 03, 2021, 01:40:12 PM »

As I have said all along the Pandemic put urban poverty front and center and D's have done well since the Pandemic began

Where Rs in 2010/2014/2016 done well Pre Pandemic

The Rs haven't cracked the Blue Wall since Trump won it on Gary Johnson vote

It's a Black and Brown Election Blk and Latino males make up 77% of homeless and prison population and Single mom Blk females are urban poverty too, it's not a White male Election

FL, NC and OH are still swing states that's why Demings and Ryan are down by only 4, we must win 53 seats and keep H for DC Statehood, Rs can win the H in 2022/S 2024 and steal the 2024 Election

FL has 40% Latino like CA
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« Reply #2498 on: October 03, 2021, 02:12:40 PM »

Eventually things have to turn around, right?
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« Reply #2499 on: October 03, 2021, 03:24:20 PM »

If Biden’s approval is this on Eday 2024 he’ll win
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