Why Joe Biden have lesser margin in Delaware than Obama in 2008?
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« on: November 07, 2020, 03:07:47 PM »

Delaware in 2008: 62%-35%
Delaware in 2020: 59%-40%


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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2020, 03:08:29 PM »

Because Obama won the national PV by more than two points.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2020, 03:09:05 PM »
« Edited: November 07, 2020, 03:25:42 PM by lfromnj »

Its actually same as 2012's margin

2 things- I guess this election will be slightly closer in the PV than 08.

2nd. Delaware is being colonized by Republican retirees. Wilmington is stagnant while the 2 southern counties are among the fastest growing in the nation. Its absolutely a target for the GOP for the 2 senate seats there.

Seems to have been a senior swing this year due to COVID perhaps but not sure for the future.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2020, 03:11:36 PM »

Should it had the favorite son effect? Same as Illinois and Hawaii for Obama in 2008?
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2020, 03:23:50 PM »

Trump overperformed in Sussex and Kent counties.

Nope, it actually trended more D than New Castle.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2020, 03:49:10 PM »

Delaware is trending R.

I think in a couple of cycles we will be talking about battleground Delaware.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2020, 03:50:35 PM »

Because Obama won the national PV by more than two points.

So did Biden, will be about 5 in the end.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2020, 03:54:25 PM »

Because Obama won the national PV by more than two points.

So did Biden, will be about 5 in the end.

Is there still that much of CA/NY left to count?

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 03:56:23 PM »

Because Obama won the national PV by more than two points.

So did Biden, will be about 5 in the end.

Is there still that much of CA/NY left to count?



A lot in NY, CA has a decent bit that should still Lean D overall but they probably aren't leaning as overwhelmingly D. For Example Kern county is a tie rn and that should move towards Trump as I highly doubt Kern trends that much D, it does not seem like that type of place. Oil+Hispanic+not very woke white population.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2020, 04:02:14 PM »

Delaware is trending R.

I think in a couple of cycles we will be talking about battleground Delaware.


Delaware was a very good bellwether state for the 2nd half of the 20th century.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2020, 04:05:35 PM »

Re: the favorite son effect, Obama also probably had such an effect due to Biden being his running mate, fwiw. 2008 was just a good Democratic year.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2020, 04:20:16 PM »

Hillary didn't get one in none of the states usually associated to her (NY, AR or IL). Neither did Trump. His performance in FL in 2016 was consistent with a 2 points victory for the democrat. I feel that favourite sons effects may be things of the past or, at the very least, lost in translation when the candidate has more of a national profile than anything else like Biden and Hillary.   I would assume most people in Delaware now know Biden as a former VP instead of a former senator for their state.   
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2020, 04:20:56 PM »

Hillary didn't get one in none of the states usually associated to her (NY, AR or IL). Neither did Trump. His performance in FL in 2016 was consistent with a 2 points victory for the democrat. I feel that favourite sons effects may be things of the past or, at the very least, lost in translation when the candidate has more of a national profile than anything else like Biden and Hillary.   I would assume most people in Delaware now know Biden as a former VP instead of a former senator for their state.   

AR has swung R this year though Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2020, 04:21:37 PM »

Had Biden been the nominee in 2008, he likely would’ve won it by even more. At this point, though, Biden is much more of a national politician, and that always limits how big of a home state bump a candidate gets.
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2020, 04:30:19 PM »

Hillary didn't get one in none of the states usually associated to her (NY, AR or IL). Neither did Trump. His performance in FL in 2016 was consistent with a 2 points victory for the democrat. I feel that favourite sons effects may be things of the past or, at the very least, lost in translation when the candidate has more of a national profile than anything else like Biden and Hillary.   I would assume most people in Delaware now know Biden as a former VP instead of a former senator for their state.   

AR has swung R this year though Tongue

I suppose it might point to a lingering favourite-daughter-in-law effect. Though, Arkansas did trend R in 2016 and had a similar trend to neighboring states.
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