Georgia senate seats runoff(s) megathread

[ProgressiveModerate]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1326020210218967040
Imagine opposing universal healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

Anyway, nothing we didn't already know, but anyone blaming the Left if he loses is totally disingenuous.

maybe he's saying that because he wants to win the state?

What does it say about our people that universal healthcare is a losing issue?

M4A is a losing issue, not necessarily universal healthcare

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The D's pathway to majority would get easier if they win these two seats for 2022, it would set us up nicely to get more seats in 2022, PA, NC and WI. It would be a much more difficult task if we lose both runoffs to get the majority in 2022

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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1326020210218967040
Imagine opposing universal healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

Anyway, nothing we didn't already know, but anyone blaming the Left if he loses is totally disingenuous.

maybe he's saying that because he wants to win the state?

Single payer is a lot more popular than Jon Ossoff.

[MRS DONNA SHALALA]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1326020210218967040
Imagine opposing universal healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

Anyway, nothing we didn't already know, but anyone blaming the Left if he loses is totally disingenuous.

maybe he's saying that because he wants to win the state?

Single payer is a lot more popular than Jon Ossoff.

No, it really isn't. At least not as Bernie's M4A bill has it:

When told that Medicare-for-all would abolish private insurance, respondents flip from favoring the plan by a 56 percent to 38 percent margin to opposing it by a 58 percent to 37 percent margin.

Pretty sure Ossoff isn't polling at -21 favorability.

(source: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/29/8910387/medicare-for-all-insurance-private-abolish-bruenig)

[Beet]

The Democrats blew Medicare for All so bad. Up until the 2019 primaries, it was a brilliant way of framing single payer and consequently very popular. However during the primaries, due to Bernie's need to be more pure to the left than everyone else, abolishing private insurance became a litmus test and once people realized that, its now something the Right uses to bash the Democrats over. It's just this sort of rush-to-the-extreme, self-defeating nonsense where the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[MRS DONNA SHALALA]

The Democrats blew Medicare for All so bad. Up until the 2019 primaries, it was a brilliant way of framing single payer and consequently very popular. However during the primaries, due to Bernie's need to be more pure to the left than everyone else, abolishing private insurance became a litmus test and once people realized that, its now something the Right uses to bash the Democrats over. It's just this sort of rush-to-the-extreme, self-defeating nonsense where the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Bernie Sanders and the cult of Magic Grandpa blew it up. Kamala and Pete's M4A plans were fine.

[GAKas]

Optimistic: Warnock beats Loeffler 51-49% and Ossoff beats Perdue 50.05-49.95%

Cynical and probably more realistic: Loeffler over Warnock 52%-48% & Perdue over Ossoff 53%-47%

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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1326020210218967040
Imagine opposing universal healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

Anyway, nothing we didn't already know, but anyone blaming the Left if he loses is totally disingenuous.

maybe he's saying that because he wants to win the state?

Single payer is a lot more popular than Jon Ossoff.

No, it really isn't. At least not as Bernie's M4A bill has it:

When told that Medicare-for-all would abolish private insurance, respondents flip from favoring the plan by a 56 percent to 38 percent margin to opposing it by a 58 percent to 37 percent margin.

Pretty sure Ossoff isn't polling at -21 favorability.

(source: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/29/8910387/medicare-for-all-insurance-private-abolish-bruenig)

That's a red herring. Even the UK NHS, which does much further than just single payer, still has private insurance. Single payer is the moderate position.

[SCNCmod]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1326020210218967040
Imagine opposing universal healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

Anyway, nothing we didn't already know, but anyone blaming the Left if he loses is totally disingenuous.

Universal. Healthcare. And. Medicare. For. All. Are. Not. The. Same. Thing.

Completely Agree!!  

(Also- if you don't get a Dem Senate... neither has a chance of happening. Not even a public option (the passable middle step to universal healthcare).

[MRS DONNA SHALALA]

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1326020210218967040
Imagine opposing universal healthcare in the middle of a pandemic.

Anyway, nothing we didn't already know, but anyone blaming the Left if he loses is totally disingenuous.

maybe he's saying that because he wants to win the state?

Single payer is a lot more popular than Jon Ossoff.

No, it really isn't. At least not as Bernie's M4A bill has it:

When told that Medicare-for-all would abolish private insurance, respondents flip from favoring the plan by a 56 percent to 38 percent margin to opposing it by a 58 percent to 37 percent margin.

Pretty sure Ossoff isn't polling at -21 favorability.

(source: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/29/8910387/medicare-for-all-insurance-private-abolish-bruenig)

That's a red herring. Even the UK NHS, which does much further than just single payer, still has private insurance. Single payer is the moderate position.

For someone who loves to talk up Medicare-for-All as if it's the be-all and end-all, it seems like you don't actually know what's in the bill. From the bill itself:

SEC. 107. PROHIBITION AGAINST DUPLICATING COVERAGE.
(a) In General.—Beginning on the effective date described in section 106(a), it shall be unlawful for—

(1) a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act; or

(2) an employer to provide benefits for an employee, former employee, or the dependents of an employee or former employee that duplicate the benefits provided under this Act.

Here's the full link to this bill you apparently love so much (that you couldn't be bothered to learn anything about): https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1129/text

[Xing]

Funny, I didn’t realize Bernie Sanders was the Democratic candidate in the Georgia run-offs...

[Frenchrepublican]

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https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1326377249277415425?s=20

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1326170380516593665?s=20

[wbrocks67]

Optimistic: Warnock beats Loeffler 51-49% and Ossoff beats Perdue 50.05-49.95%

Cynical and probably more realistic: Loeffler over Warnock 52%-48% & Perdue over Ossoff 53%-47%

Yeah I don't see how Rs winning by 4 and 6 is realistic.

Honestly, a lead of 0-2% in either direction seems the most realistic for both races.

[henster]

I think both Ossoff and Warnock are both subpar candidates. Dems certaintely could've done better with  McBath or Yates had they run. The latest oppo dumps on Warnock have me thinking how Dems came around to coalescing around him...

[Skill and Chance]

Personally, I'm expecting a Warnock/Perdue split decision with both seats within 2%.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Warnock is getting hit pretty hard by the right today for a past anti-Israel letter he signed as part of his church. While I definitely find some of the commentary in there offensive, it also doesn't have any real tinges of antisemitism and his current statements make me think this is more of a Conor Lamb situation than an Ilhan Omar situation.

[GALeftist]

Nothingburger, most likely. Jewish groups are already coming out for Warnock and his statement wasn't even that bad. Palestinian lives do matter. Saying that is not anti-Semitic in the slightest.

[Pollster]

Israel-related attacks from the right are designed to excite the white Evangelical/Born Again Christian base (usually a 35-40% of the Georgia electorate). This is an issue of high salience to them, and it's more of a base turnout tactic for Republicans rather than an attempt at a wedge.

[One Term Floridian]

I highly doubt it’ll be a split election. Seems like Warnock will perform slightly better than Ossoff but that still doesn’t mean we’ll end up with a Perdoo/Warnock split in the GA Senate delegation in November.

What do y’all think? Is there a legitimate possibility of a split here?

[Tiger08]

https://twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1326568061688799235

GOP oppo dump hitting Warnock HARD today

[BudgieForce]

Republicans do know its better to spread these out, right?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

I'm gonna guess there's some more to the story than Cotton claimed, just because that's the kind of thing where you don't even get into the primary if that can be easily dug up.

[BigSerg]

Raphael Warnock is a danger to the nation
https://twitter.com/KLoeffler/status/1326886285492056066?s=19

[wbrocks67]

I highly doubt it’ll be a split election. Seems like Warnock will perform slightly better than Ossoff but that still doesn’t mean we’ll end up with a Perdoo/Warnock split in the GA Senate delegation in November.

What do y’all think? Is there a legitimate possibility of a split here?

The turnout is going to be highly partisan IMO, so I really don't see a split happening. And if there is a split, it's because one wins or loses by like a few thousand votes or something

[Hope For A New Era]

Democrats need to go all-in on these races. Obnoxious Republican-style hyperbolic "stakes" ads, mountains out of molehills, fearmongering everywhere...fire with fire. Be the bad guy so we can be the good guy later. This party cannot continue being the victim.