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« Reply #450 on: September 27, 2022, 03:15:57 PM »

We have our first Lake ad:

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« Reply #451 on: September 27, 2022, 03:20:15 PM »

We have our first Lake ad:



The goal of this ad is to just paint her as a nice person. It doesn't explain any of her policy nor combat any sort of fringe positions she has been accused of holding.
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« Reply #452 on: September 27, 2022, 03:33:45 PM »

We have our first Lake ad:



Lmao what a terrible ad. "People have been lying about me. I'm not going to refute any of those lies or even say what they are, but here's a very brief backstory."
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« Reply #453 on: September 27, 2022, 04:02:55 PM »

So Lake is apparently putting $7.5M behind that ad, with help from Yuma County GOP. They must be fronting a lot of the bill, because last I saw, Lake had only raised a few million herself.

Also interesting, RGA has spent $4M hitting Hobbs with negative ads according to the NBC article on that ad, and yet Hobbs' favorables still seem in tact.
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« Reply #454 on: September 27, 2022, 05:19:02 PM »

We have our first Lake ad:



The goal of this ad is to just paint her as a nice person. It doesn't explain any of her policy nor combat any sort of fringe positions she has been accused of holding.

Well, yeah, people vote on feelings. It’s a pretty good ad.

So Lake is apparently putting $7.5M behind that ad, with help from Yuma County GOP. They must be fronting a lot of the bill, because last I saw, Lake had only raised a few million herself.

Also interesting, RGA has spent $4M hitting Hobbs with negative ads according to the NBC article on that ad, and yet Hobbs' favorables still seem in tact.

Yeah, I haven’t seen any anti Hobbs stuff.
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« Reply #455 on: September 27, 2022, 05:29:12 PM »

Based move by Cheney.

There's a lot criticize her for, especially her hawkish stances, though you got to give her credit for making the right call here.

If this is where she is going, she should be the next President.

LOL.

No.

Cheney is still sh**t on 95% of issues. Just cause the bar is so low for Republicans doesn't mean we start supporting the barley palatable ones for elected office.
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« Reply #456 on: September 27, 2022, 06:27:52 PM »

Honestly Hobbs should just run her own TV appearances as ads then

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« Reply #457 on: September 28, 2022, 02:59:03 PM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.
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« Reply #458 on: September 28, 2022, 04:13:43 PM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.

IIRC, I think she is - I saw some video she posted the other day about it
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« Reply #459 on: September 28, 2022, 08:54:39 PM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.

But Republicans are the party of the working class!!!!11111!!!
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« Reply #460 on: September 28, 2022, 08:57:03 PM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.

But Republicans are the party of the working class!!!!11111!!!

Of the white working class, but not of the minority working class - at least, not now. That would be a true realignment if that were to occur.
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« Reply #461 on: September 29, 2022, 02:50:45 AM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.

But Republicans are the party of the working class!!!!11111!!!

Of the white working class, but not of the minority working class - at least, not now. That would be a true realignment if that were to occur.

Perhaps, but 90% of the time in politics when people say "the working class" they mean 40+ white men without a college degree.
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« Reply #462 on: September 29, 2022, 07:44:36 AM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.

But Republicans are the party of the working class!!!!11111!!!

Of the white working class, but not of the minority working class - at least, not now. That would be a true realignment if that were to occur.

Perhaps, but 90% of the time in politics when people say "the working class" they mean 40+ white men without a college degree.

Well, that's one and the same as the white working class, is it not? I personally have not seen this kind of distinction. The distinctions I notice are usually made along racial lines.
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« Reply #463 on: September 29, 2022, 08:15:18 AM »


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« Reply #464 on: September 29, 2022, 10:12:59 AM »




Sigh. Lol
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« Reply #465 on: September 29, 2022, 02:30:32 PM »

One of the stranger attacks on Hobbs recently has been a story about her not reporting income from her Uber side gig in 2016.

I don’t know why Hobbs isn’t running with the story. It really humanizes her. Kinda blows my mind that our Secretary of State was chaffeuring people around Phoenix five years ago to support her family. I would like to see more of that side of Katie—I think it would endear people to her.

But Republicans are the party of the working class!!!!11111!!!

Of the white working class, but not of the minority working class - at least, not now. That would be a true realignment if that were to occur.

Perhaps, but 90% of the time in politics when people say "the working class" they mean 40+ white men without a college degree.

Well, that's one and the same as the white working class, is it not? I personally have not seen this kind of distinction. The distinctions I notice are usually made along racial lines.

Honestly it kind of annoys me a bit that "working class" is always synonyms with rural white voters of lower education levels. The fact is the vast, vast majority of this country is working class, even in states or communities often associated with wealth.
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« Reply #466 on: September 29, 2022, 04:26:26 PM »




Sigh. Lol

Given that poll is an R+10 sample it's not that bad for the Ds lol
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« Reply #467 on: September 29, 2022, 05:07:23 PM »




Sigh. Lol

Given that poll is an R+10 sample it's not that bad for the Ds lol

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. At a minimum both races (like the gubernatorial race) seem to be tossups where they could very well have been more Republican due to less interest in them.
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« Reply #468 on: September 29, 2022, 05:34:33 PM »




Sigh. Lol

Given that poll is an R+10 sample it's not that bad for the Ds lol

R+10 in terms of registration? Don't Rs still have a pretty big registration advantage in AZ anyways?
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« Reply #469 on: September 29, 2022, 05:43:19 PM »
« Edited: September 29, 2022, 05:50:06 PM by xavier110 »

NYT profiled the race. The usual stuff, it’s competitive, Lake is insane and Hobbs is uninspiring, abortion being back in the conversation helps her, yadda, yadda, yadda. I was hoping to find an interesting nugget, but nope
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« Reply #470 on: September 29, 2022, 05:48:34 PM »




Sigh. Lol

Given that poll is an R+10 sample it's not that bad for the Ds lol

R+10 in terms of registration? Don't Rs still have a pretty big registration advantage in AZ anyways?

Not really. Statewide it’s 35% R, 34% I, 31% D
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« Reply #471 on: September 29, 2022, 05:55:36 PM »




Sigh. Lol

Given that poll is an R+10 sample it's not that bad for the Ds lol

R+10 in terms of registration? Don't Rs still have a pretty big registration advantage in AZ anyways?

Not really. Statewide it’s 35% R, 34% I, 31% D

Huh for some reason I thought the gap was larger.
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« Reply #472 on: September 29, 2022, 06:20:14 PM »



Sigh. Lol

Given that poll is an R+10 sample it's not that bad for the Ds lol

R+10 in terms of registration? Don't Rs still have a pretty big registration advantage in AZ anyways?

Not really. Statewide it’s 35% R, 34% I, 31% D

Huh for some reason I thought the gap was larger.

I think it used to be, but the R's have lost a lot of ground to Independents (and D's have lost a little too, IIRC).
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« Reply #473 on: September 29, 2022, 07:10:39 PM »

Last two elections have followed the reg too, I think they have been R+3 and R+4
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« Reply #474 on: September 29, 2022, 07:45:01 PM »


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