Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 2024 megathread

[T'Chenka]

I'm not saying that she will run, amd I'm not saying that the timing is right for her to run. There WILL be speculation though, so we may as well have a megathread to discuss it.

[redjohn]

It wouldn't be smart for her to run against a VP Harris. She'd lose badly against an incumbent VP who will likely be very popular with the Democratic base. I'd love to see AOC run for President one day, but she has so much time to run that there's no rush. It would be beneficial for her to wait due to electorate changes, in my view.

[T'Chenka]

Part of me wants to see her run, but as it looks right now in Nov 2020, it might be too early. Many say she should try to become a senator / governor first and get older while staying culturally relevant and slowly growing her base. I'd prefer her to run in an open primary after 8 years of a Dem or after 4/8 years of a Republican.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

As much as I love AOC, I can't see her message winning a Primary yet. That's not an AOC problem as much as it is a DNC problem.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

God no! Unless we want republicans to have a  supermajority in the house and senate

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

[T'Chenka]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

While a lot of HRC's unpopularity was self-inflicted, she had a particular toxicity for being target no. 1 on right wing media for decades. That basically crystallised some seriously negative nerceptions of her that just would never be there for other politicians even if they had every hang-up HRC had (including her gender - it wasn't just sexism, before that comment inevitably pops up somewhere in this thread). AOC is now experiencing that same process; it's not there yet - after all, it took 20+ years for HRC to get that level of toxicity - but, if she leaves it too late, she will one day occupy the same space in millions of voters' heads that HRC did.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

Working class hero? Nah.

[Frodo]

She is better off accumulating seniority in the House and/or running for Chuck Schumer's Senate seat when he retires.  And I think she knows that. 

[AGA]

I think that 2020 has shown that the average voter does not like the left wing of the Democratic party. So many downballot candidates got smeared as socialists or in bed with the squad. Biden has been holding up because he is well known enough for the attacks to not stick.

[SevenEleven]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

Hillary beat Bernie though...yeah?

[Suburbia]

I think that 2020 has shown that the average voter does not like the left wing of the Democratic party. So many downballot candidates got smeared as socialists or in bed with the squad. Biden has been holding up because he is well known enough for the attacks to not stick.

This. She would lose badly.

[Cassandra]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

While a lot of HRC's unpopularity was self-inflicted, she had a particular toxicity for being target no. 1 on right wing media for decades. That basically crystallised some seriously negative nerceptions of her that just would never be there for other politicians even if they had every hang-up HRC had (including her gender - it wasn't just sexism, before that comment inevitably pops up somewhere in this thread). AOC is now experiencing that same process; it's not there yet - after all, it took 20+ years for HRC to get that level of toxicity - but, if she leaves it too late, she will one day occupy the same space in millions of voters' heads that HRC did.

This is a very good point, an aspect I had not considered. Now I hope even more that she runs in 2024.

[°Leprechaun]

She'd do better than Tulsi.

[SInNYC]

AOC is not Hillary. Hillary was hated by right wingers. AOC is hated by both right wingers and the Democratic party establishment. The party may tolerate her because they dont want to alienate her voters, but they make the same snide comments attacking her as an empty suit (she is not).

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

AA whom dislike Markey remember her supporting Markey over Joe Kennedy, she will never get the nomination and she would be lucky if she didn't underperform with Latino men

Markey isn't liked by AA, Kennedys are beloved by AA and Daley's, Joe Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Prez Biden are blue dogs and Biden supporters whom supported Markey said Kennedy is too Conservative. Hypocrisy there

[CookieDamage]

Really like her but no

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

Working class hero? Nah.

Get out of your neoliberal wine mom bubble lmao.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Hot take: she actually can't afford to wait more than a few cycles if she wants to launch a presidential bid. She is the next HRC in that she is the long-term Republican public enemy no. 1 and that means that no matter how she might politically evolve, she is slowly going to grow increasingly toxic to the national electorate.

She's a hip/cool populist working class hero that's VERY in touch with the younger generations.

Doesn't sound "toxic" or like Hillary to me. Sounds more like Bernie.

Working class hero? Nah.

Get out of your neoliberal wine mom bubble lmao.

Get out of your Brooklyn hipster bubble lmao. AOC definitely does not play well in blue collar middle America. You can make a case for electing her but that's not it. Her biggest fans are very obviously professional/managerial class millenial urbanites--incidentally people like me.

[OSR stands with Israel]

If The democrats nominate AOC they literally will be nominating a modern WJB

[MABA 2020]

If The democrats nominate AOC they literally will be nominating a modern WJB

How is AOC anything like WJB?

[OSR stands with Israel]

If The democrats nominate AOC they literally will be nominating a modern WJB

How is AOC anything like WJB?

Both young socialists who want to tear down the system and the current party establishment. Both also Weren’t part of the Democratic Party before joining poltics too . Both have a pretty anti American FP as well

Both their nominations also would result in the Democratic Party losing among groups they had been gaining among the previous 16 years

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

If Democrats are stupid enough to nominate a Defund the Police, M4A, Green New Deal, Pack the Courts Socialist from the east coast, it will be my pleasure to back the Libertarian Nominee, or perhaps a Republican who demonstrates clear differences from Trump.

[KoopaDaQuick 🇵🇸]

If Democrats are decent enough to nominate a Defund the Police, M4A, Green New Deal, Pack the Courts Socialist, it will be my pleasure to back the Democratic Nominee.