WARNING to the Republican Party: Don't go back to Reform or NeoConservatism!

[2016]

Stay the Course with Economic Populism and don't go back to the Pre-Trump Time!

If you do I'll sit out the next few Elections and I will encourage other Republican-leaning Voters to do it as well!

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

And yet you back Nikki Haley. 

[Tekken_Guy]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

[Mercenary]

They should adopt the ASP platform.

[It’s so Joever]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

That’s what’s allowing them to make huge strides with the poorly educated across all races and all states.
Being anti-science seems to be the new trend.

[Roll Roons]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Agreed. Climate change is a very real and pressing threat. You don't have to support AOC's Green New Deal, but you can come with alternative solutions.

[Ljube]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Agreed. Climate change is a very real and pressing threat. You don't have to support AOC's Green New Deal, but you can come with alternative solutions.

LOL! This year is proof that Climate Change is not a very real and pressing threat. there is a drop in human caused emissions by approximately 10% annualized and no impact on the rise of atmosphere CO2 levels.

While we need to wait for studies to analyze this, from what I'm seeing, I would say that human emissions are not the dominant driver of the rise of CO2 levels.

[Hammy]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Agreed. Climate change is a very real and pressing threat. You don't have to support AOC's Green New Deal, but you can come with alternative solutions.

LOL! This year is proof that Climate Change is not a very real and pressing threat. there is a drop in human caused emissions by approximately 10% annualized and no impact on the rise of atmosphere CO2 levels.

While we need to wait for studies to analyze this, from what I'm seeing, I would say that human emissions are not the dominant driver of the rise of CO2 levels.

Clearly you have no basic grasp of science if you think that any result would be instant, or that the total stored CO2 in the atmosphere would drop (which is what's necessary to reverse climate change)

[mardigrappa]

Don't go back to Trump.

[Ljube]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Agreed. Climate change is a very real and pressing threat. You don't have to support AOC's Green New Deal, but you can come with alternative solutions.

LOL! This year is proof that Climate Change is not a very real and pressing threat. there is a drop in human caused emissions by approximately 10% annualized and no impact on the rise of atmosphere CO2 levels.

While we need to wait for studies to analyze this, from what I'm seeing, I would say that human emissions are not the dominant driver of the rise of CO2 levels.

Clearly you have no basic grasp of science if you think that any result would be instant, or that the total stored CO2 in the atmosphere would drop (which is what's necessary to reverse climate change)

I have a full grasp of science having read everything about Climate Change in 2008, unlike you. I do not expect that the CO2 levels would drop. I expected that there would be a correlation with human emissions that dropped, so I would expect that CO2 levels would grow less than previous years. That's not happening.

I will be waiting for scientific studies that will analyze the data and possibly find an explanation.

There has never been a clear link between the amount of emitted CO2 and the increase of CO2 content in the atmosphere and the discrepancy was explained by a theory that excess CO2 emitted by humans is dissolved in the oceans. Nevertheless, reduced emissions should cause reduced growth of CO2 levels if there is a correlation between the two.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Reform conservatism *is* economically populist.   

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I agree with Shua, the idea that reform and populism are opposed to each other is kind misguided.

[GALeftist]

I disagree with this, but not because I think you're wrong. If 2020 demonstrated anything to me, it's that right populism is not an aberration and 2016 wasn't a fluke; it took everything but the kitchen sink to take down Trump in 2020, and I'm fairly confident that a candidate like Ben Sasse or something would have been slaughtered. I sincerely hope that the split between the Trump base and the GOP establishment comes back and worsens; otherwise, I fear we're doomed to more 2016s.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Trump wasn't an economic populist though.

At the end of the day he was just totally clueless and had no core principles other than political self-service.

Some days he would start trade wars with China.  Other days he would be begging China to sign a great trade deal.

Some days he would insist that we were being ripped off by our hemispheric neighbors and start trade wars with them.  Other days he would sign a rebranded NAFTA.  And then tell everyone he had "killed NAFTA" when he barely changed it at all.

He ran on trying to help struggling farmers, but farmers have been devastated by the Trump presidency because his tariffs have sent commodities markets into chaos.  He ran on trying to bring jobs back to America and stop outsourcing, and he completely failed.

He ran on trying to fix the national debt, and then signed a huge tax cut that doubled the Obama-era deficits.  And in spite of this, his GDP growth per year was smaller than Obama's.

And when the pandemic hit, he couldn't care less about workers and made zero effort to get them the funding they needed to go back to work safely.  Instead he just tried to bully everyone into going back to work under unsafe conditions, and then cried like a bitch when unemployment stayed high because people didn't want to die.

Has the rust belt been revitalized?  Has coal country been revitalized?  Are blue collar workers better off now than they were four years ago?  Did Trump stop the illegal immigrants from taking our jobs?  Did Trump stop China from manipulating currency, stealing intellectual property, and flooding our markets with cheap knock-offs?  Are farmers and manufacturers better off now than they were four years ago?  The answer to all of these questions is no.

Trump was never an economic populist.

[2016]

Don't go back to Trump.

Wrong, go back to Trump. Ivanka or Don Jr. please! Or DeSantis!

I've changed my mind about Rubio, Haley and all these frauds. We need fighters and not these spineless people.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Don't go back to Trump.

Wrong, go back to Trump. Ivanka or Don Jr. please! Or DeSantis!

I've changed my mind about Rubio, Haley and all these frauds. We need fighters and not these spineless people.

Amen! DeSantis 2024!

[The Mikado]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Tony Fauci, whadda we do? Inject him with the Wuhan Flu! Inject him with the Wuhan Flu!

-Anti-lockdown activists in Borat

[AGA]

Neocons are better politicians and are less likely to win, so it's a win-win for me.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Trump wasn't an economic populist though.

At the end of the day he was just totally clueless and had no core principles other than political self-service.

Some days he would start trade wars with China.  Other days he would be begging China to sign a great trade deal.

Some days he would insist that we were being ripped off by our hemispheric neighbors and start trade wars with them.  Other days he would sign a rebranded NAFTA.  And then tell everyone he had "killed NAFTA" when he barely changed it at all.

He ran on trying to help struggling farmers, but farmers have been devastated by the Trump presidency because his tariffs have sent commodities markets into chaos.  He ran on trying to bring jobs back to America and stop outsourcing, and he completely failed.

He ran on trying to fix the national debt, and then signed a huge tax cut that doubled the Obama-era deficits.  And in spite of this, his GDP growth per year was smaller than Obama's.

And when the pandemic hit, he couldn't care less about workers and made zero effort to get them the funding they needed to go back to work safely.  Instead he just tried to bully everyone into going back to work under unsafe conditions, and then cried like a bitch when unemployment stayed high because people didn't want to die.

Has the rust belt been revitalized?  Has coal country been revitalized?  Are blue collar workers better off now than they were four years ago?  Did Trump stop the illegal immigrants from taking our jobs?  Did Trump stop China from manipulating currency, stealing intellectual property, and flooding our markets with cheap knock-offs?  Are farmers and manufacturers better off now than they were four years ago?  The answer to all of these questions is no.

Trump was never an economic populist.

One of the rules in business is that there are not many rules.

Look at Trump throwing 100 court cases at Bidens attempt to win the Presidency.

In business, that is just a nasty tactic to put you in financial quicksand so you run out of money, grow tired of lawyers and give up.

But in the White House, that tactic is irrelevant.

From a business perspective, Trump did have an impact on Chinese trade, immigration and the economy.

From a political perspective, he did not make enough alliances to get his plans finished.

You achieve more making friends than you do making enemies.

Hopefully Biden does not make the same mistake.

[支持核绿派 (Greens4Nuclear)]

At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Tony Fauci, whadda we do? Inject him with the Wuhan Flu! Inject him with the Wuhan Flu!

-Anti-lockdown activists in Borat

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At the very least, I want to see them stop with anti-science.

Agreed. Climate change is a very real and pressing threat. You don't have to support AOC's Green New Deal, but you can come with alternative solutions.

[Hope For A New Era]

They should adopt the ASP platform.

Seriously this. They'd win landslides.

[MATTROSE94]

The Republicans should honestly go back to a John Kasich or Ronald Reagan style platform. Against a terrible Democratic candidate such as Tulsi Goddard, I would easily vote Republican with such a platform.

[Buzz]

The days of the Haley, Rubio, Romney type candidate is over.  Don’t ever try to run someone like that again.

[Red Velvet]

For all the big talk they have, maybe the dislike Trump voters have for the democratic party would just speak louder in case of a neoconservative republican nominee.

Establishment republicans just have to force their way in order to win their primary and eventually the anti-establishment Trump populists would end up kneeling down against their will in total submission, in order to defeat the “common enemy”. Kinda like what happened with the Democrats and the Bernie base.

Republicans just need to learn to control their base as well as Democrats do. In 2016 they let themselves be controlled instead, something they can prevent if they do their homework.

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Trump wasn't an economic populist though.

At the end of the day he was just totally clueless and had no core principles other than political self-service.

Some days he would start trade wars with China.  Other days he would be begging China to sign a great trade deal.

Some days he would insist that we were being ripped off by our hemispheric neighbors and start trade wars with them.  Other days he would sign a rebranded NAFTA.  And then tell everyone he had "killed NAFTA" when he barely changed it at all.

He ran on trying to help struggling farmers, but farmers have been devastated by the Trump presidency because his tariffs have sent commodities markets into chaos.  He ran on trying to bring jobs back to America and stop outsourcing, and he completely failed.

He ran on trying to fix the national debt, and then signed a huge tax cut that doubled the Obama-era deficits.  And in spite of this, his GDP growth per year was smaller than Obama's.

And when the pandemic hit, he couldn't care less about workers and made zero effort to get them the funding they needed to go back to work safely.  Instead he just tried to bully everyone into going back to work under unsafe conditions, and then cried like a bitch when unemployment stayed high because people didn't want to die.

Has the rust belt been revitalized?  Has coal country been revitalized?  Are blue collar workers better off now than they were four years ago?  Did Trump stop the illegal immigrants from taking our jobs?  Did Trump stop China from manipulating currency, stealing intellectual property, and flooding our markets with cheap knock-offs?  Are farmers and manufacturers better off now than they were four years ago?  The answer to all of these questions is no.

Trump was never an economic populist.

Trump didn't have to be some amazing economic populist to be seen as a populist. He just had to be more populist than the other choices.