2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Tender Branson]

5 certificates have not arrived at the Archives yet ...

CT, KS, MO, NM and UT.

[Tender Branson]

5 certificates have not arrived at the Archives yet ...

CT, KS, MO, NM and UT.

Meanwhile, 3 states + DC have already sent their Certificates of Vote (= Electorate College certificates) to the Archives.

[jimrtex]

Certificates of Vote have been received from AL, DC, VT, and WV.

Trump 14 (70%)
Biden 6 (30%)

[Tender Branson]

Now, the National Archives have received Certificates of Vote from 10 states + DC.

[jimrtex]

Certificates of Vote:

Alabama: Trump/Pence: 9. At Arizona State Capitol, Montgomery, Year 2020, Count of votes were handwritten. It appears that each elector used a personal pen.

Arizona: Biden/Harris: 11. At Phoenix, Year 2020. Separate certificates were signed for President and Vice President, resulting in each elector signing 12 certificates (6 copies of each must be wet-signed). Steve Gallardo, one of the electors, signed the Vice Presidential certificate in black ink, perhaps invalidating it. All the others signed in blue ink, likely with an official pen.

Arkansas: Trump/Pence: 6. Old Supreme Court Chamber, Arkansas State Capitol, Little Rock, year 2020. Separate certificates for President and Vice-President were signed. The electors were styled The Honorable in recognition of their office as electors.

Two absent electors were replaced. Ed Bethune (who is almost 85) was replaced by George Ritter who has written a book explaining why the 14th Amendment was not ratified.

J.D.McGehee, the district director for AR-4 was replaced by Joseph Wood, Washington County Judge (head of government). McGehee may have been challenged because he is a federal employee ("Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States"). Both McGehee and Wood are black.

[Tender Branson]

Now, the National Archives have received Certificates of Vote from 10 states + DC.

15/51 Certificates of Vote (=electoral college votes) received now.

Certificates of Ascertainment (=election results) still stuck at 46/51 received.

WTF is taking CT, KS, MO, NM and UT so long ?

[Crumpets]

https://twitter.com/NilesGApol/status/1339589329622945794

[Roblox]

Biden's margin in Colorado is still stunning to me. If you showed it before the election I would have assumed a high single digit margin nationally. What percentage of the electorate is college educated there? I know it has the 2nd highest rate of college degrees amongst adults over 25.

[Tender Branson]

NM's certificate of the election results has been received by the National Archives !

It took 23 days (!) to be shipped from Santa Fe to Washington DC ... LOL.

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-new-mexico.pdf

[DINGO Joe]

Biden's margin in Colorado is still stunning to me. If you showed it before the election I would have assumed a high single digit margin nationally. What percentage of the electorate is college educated there? I know it has the 2nd highest rate of college degrees amongst adults over 25.

41%.  Mass is 44% WV is the lowest at 20%

[GALeftist]

https://twitter.com/NilesGApol/status/1339589329622945794

Kek Gwinnett was blue even on election day

[Roblox]

Biden's margin in Colorado is still stunning to me. If you showed it before the election I would have assumed a high single digit margin nationally. What percentage of the electorate is college educated there? I know it has the 2nd highest rate of college degrees amongst adults over 25.

41%.  Mass is 44% WV is the lowest at 20%

Thank you. Could you link me to a source where you can find this info for all states?

[DINGO Joe]

Biden's margin in Colorado is still stunning to me. If you showed it before the election I would have assumed a high single digit margin nationally. What percentage of the electorate is college educated there? I know it has the 2nd highest rate of college degrees amongst adults over 25.

41%.  Mass is 44% WV is the lowest at 20%

Thank you. Could you link me to a source where you can find this info for all states?

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/map/IA,US,WV/EDU685219

[jimrtex]

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: Polly Baca (D) plaintiff in faithless elector case. The named plaintiff, Michael Baca was actually replace in 2016. Polly Baca joined the case, claiming that the State's action coerced her to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Tom Vilsack (D-candidate)

Kansas: Not received.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: David Bossie (R-candidate), President and Chairman of the Board, Citizens United.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman (D), who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Terry Reeves, father of Governor Tate Reeves.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Corey Lewandowski (R-candidate), former Trump campaign manager.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D), wife of Governor Phil Murphy

New Mexico: Debbie Maestas (R-candidate), State Party Chair and daughter of Allen Weh, 2014 senatorial candidate.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Who?

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Jesse Jane Duff (R-candidate) USMC Gunnery Sargeant (ret.) and TV commentator.


Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.

[jimrtex]

NM's certificate of the election results has been received by the National Archives !

It took 23 days (!) to be shipped from Santa Fe to Washington DC ... LOL.

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-new-mexico.pdf

I bet Maggie Toulouse Oliver was looking at herself in the mirror and forgot to send it.

[Tender Branson]

KS certificate of ascertainment (=election results) finally arrived in Washington.

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-kansas.pdf

It was actually signed only 3 days ago, long after the safe harbour deadline ...

[Bootes Void]

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/BenJ_Rosenblatt/status/1339760751611961344?s=20

[Tender Branson]

24/51 Electoral Vote Certificates have been received at the Archives now.

48/51 Election Results Certificates are in (CT, MO, UT still missing).

[jimrtex]

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: Polly Baca (D) plaintiff in faithless elector case. The named plaintiff, Michael Baca was actually replace in 2016. Polly Baca joined the case, claiming that the State's action coerced her to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Tom Vilsack (D-candidate)

Kansas: Emily Wellman (R), daughter of Dick Wellman, cowboy.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: David Bossie (R-candidate), President and Chairman of the Board, Citizens United.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman (D), who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Terry Reeves, father of Governor Tate Reeves.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Corey Lewandowski (R-candidate), former Trump campaign manager.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D), wife of Governor Phil Murphy

New Mexico: Debbie Maestas (R-candidate), State Party Chair and daughter of Allen Weh, 2014 senatorial candidate.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Who?

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Jesse Jane Duff (R-candidate) USMC Gunnery Sargeant (ret.) and TV commentator.


Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.

There are two certificates of ascertainment for the District of Columbia. The first styled: Amended Certificate of Ascertainment is dated 3 December 2014. The second styled Certificate of Ascertainment is dated 14 December 2014. I don't see any difference between the two.

[jimrtex]

KS certificate of ascertainment (=election results) finally arrived in Washington.

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-kansas.pdf

It was actually signed only 3 days ago, long after the safe harbour deadline ...

Vote suppression by Governor Kelly?

[jimrtex]

Certificates of Vote:

Alabama: Trump/Pence: 9. At Arizona State Capitol, Montgomery, Year 2020, Count of votes were handwritten. It appears that each elector used a personal pen.

Arizona: Biden/Harris: 11. At Phoenix, Year 2020. Separate certificates were signed for President and Vice President, resulting in each elector signing 12 certificates (6 copies of each must be wet-signed). Steve Gallardo, one of the electors, signed the Vice Presidential certificate in black ink, perhaps invalidating it. All the others signed in blue ink, likely with an official pen.

Arkansas: Trump/Pence: 6. Old Supreme Court Chamber, Arkansas State Capitol, Little Rock, year 2020. Separate certificates for President and Vice-President were signed. The electors were styled The Honorable in recognition of their office as electors.

Two absent electors were replaced. Ed Bethune (who is almost 85) was replaced by George Ritter who has written a book explaining why the 14th Amendment was not ratified.

J.D.McGehee, the district director for AR-4 was replaced by Joseph Wood, Washington County Judge (head of government). McGehee may have been challenged because he is a federal employee ("Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States"). Both McGehee and Wood are black.

District of Columbia: Biden/Harris: 3. Walter E. Washington Convention Center, Washington, year 2020. This was the 15th Electoral College for the district.

Georgia: Biden/Harris: 16. Georgia State Capitol, Atlanta, year 2020. The certificate does not contain the state seal or evidence of being witnessed. It would be quite easy for an alternate slate of electors to complete an equivalent form.

[Antonio the Sixth]

24/51 Electoral Vote Certificates have been received at the Archives now.

48/51 Election Results Certificates are in (CT, MO, UT still missing).

Care to make a map for the Vote Certificates?

[Tender Branson]

24/51 Electoral Vote Certificates have been received at the Archives now.

48/51 Election Results Certificates are in (CT, MO, UT still missing).

Care to make a map for the Vote Certificates?

All 51 have to be received by December 23rd anyway.

December 23, 2020—electoral votes arrive

Electoral votes (the Certificates of Vote) must be received by the President of the Senate and the Archivist no later than nine days after the meeting of the electors. If votes are lost or delayed, the Archivist may take extraordinary measures to retrieve duplicate originals.

[Tender Branson]

24/51 Electoral Vote Certificates have been received at the Archives now.

48/51 Election Results Certificates are in (CT, MO, UT still missing).

Update:

35/51

48/51

CT, MO, UT have neither submitted their Electoral Vote Certificates nor their Election Results Certificates.