2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

It's not important, but online MAGA is now trying to Bush v. Gore this election.

[Nyvin]

It's not important, but online MAGA is now trying to Bush v. Gore this election.

Yeah, they're really going all out.   A lot of their stuff is getting flagged by facebook as false info.    Don't know about twitter.

[ucscgaldamez1]

Biden's lead over Trump in PA (raw totals) is currently at 43,194... Trump won PA in 2016 with 44,284. So Biden is about to pass that total. I'm sure that's going to piss Trump even more (not that it matters to us anyways).

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

It's not important, but online MAGA is now trying to Bush v. Gore this election.

Yeah, they're really going all out.   A lot of their stuff is getting flagged by facebook as false info.    Don't know about twitter.

It's absolutely hilarious and pathetic.

BvG was one of the worst cases the Supreme Court ever ruled on, and that's how historians are remembering it. And the case revolved around a single state that was decided by just 500 votes. Biden is ahead 30K in NV, 44K in PA, 160K in MI, 20K in both AZ and WI, and 10K in GA. It's time for them to do what they told us when Hillary lost: get over it.

[brucejoel99]

Ladies & gentlemen:

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1325492894267039750

[GoTfan]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

No one is asking the real question though:

When will Biden replace Trump in Disney’s “Hall of Presidents?”

Probably by next summer, that's usually the turnaround with making a new president, writing a new script, updating the effects, etc. Trump was an outlier, his version of the show wasn't done until almost a year into his presidency for whatever reason.

I heard it was because they had already been working on a Hillary robot and had to scrap it.

There's a rumor that they just slightly modified the Hillary robot to look like Trump when he won.

I'm not sure if it's true.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

There's a vanishingly small chance that the Supreme Court even takes any of the "cases" the Trump campaign is filing, much less rules in his favor in all of them.

[GoTfan]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

There's a vanishingly small chance that the Supreme Court even takes any of the "cases" the Trump campaign is filing, much less rules in his favor in all of them.

Okay, that makes me more comfortable.

I just don't trust that the Supreme Court is actually an impartial body anymore.

[brucejoel99]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

Literally 0. He's been unable to present any evidence of fraud (because there isn't any), & so the federal courts have 12(b)(6)'d all of his "claims" so far. At this point, none of his suits are even making it to the Court (the PA case that Alito partially "ruled on" (read: literally just reminded the state to keep doing something it was already doing) will be as close as it gets). If Trump thought he could just ramrod the cases to the Court & then - since he appointed 3 justices - think they'd give him a favorable result, he's in for some disappointment.

[South Dakota Democrat]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

What would even be the case?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

There's a vanishingly small chance that the Supreme Court even takes any of the "cases" the Trump campaign is filing, much less rules in his favor in all of them.

Okay, that makes me more comfortable.

I just don't trust that the Supreme Court is actually an impartial body anymore.

It's not, but it's also not personally loyal to Trump in the way that Republican Senators who have to worry about reelection as Party of Trump candidates are. Other than maybe Alito and Barrett, who do seem to be all-in Trumpbots, the current Court majority is like McConnell in that it's interested in accruing power for the American right as a whole rather than perpetually carrying water for one specific politician. They can do that just as easily under a non-trifecta Biden administration as they can under a Trump administration.

Of the election-related cases that came to the Court before Election Day, some relatively-reasonable ones did result in victories for Republican claims, but the real howlers were dismissed 5-3 with Roberts and Kavanaugh joining the liberals and Barrett recusing herself.

[afleitch]

You can stop being scared of Trump now. He's bollock naked.

[Hammy]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

Literally 0. He's been unable to present any evidence of fraud (because there isn't any), & so the federal courts have 12(b)(6)'d all of his "claims" so far. At this point, none of his suits are even making it to the Court (the PA case that Alito partially "ruled on" (read: literally just reminded the state to keep doing something it was already doing) will be as close as it gets). If Trump thought he could just ramrod the cases to the Court & then - since he appointed 3 justices - think they'd give him a favorable result, he's in for some disappointment.

What about the possibilities of challenging the electoral vote certification, or strong arming state legislatures into subverting the popular vote--something I doubt they'd care about their image over if they know they can easily overturn voter will.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

What are the chances the Supreme Court sides with him?

Literally 0. He's been unable to present any evidence of fraud (because there isn't any), & so the federal courts have 12(b)(6)'d all of his "claims" so far. At this point, none of his suits are even making it to the Court (the PA case that Alito partially "ruled on" (read: literally just reminded the state to keep doing something it was already doing) will be as close as it gets). If Trump thought he could just ramrod the cases to the Court & then - since he appointed 3 justices - think they'd give him a favorable result, he's in for some disappointment.

What about the possibilities of challenging the electoral vote certification, or strong arming state legislatures into subverting the popular vote--something I doubt they'd care about their image over if they know they can easily overturn voter will.

The Pennsylvania and Michigan legislatures have expressly refused to attempt to appoint alternate slates of electors. That leaves Wisconsin, where the Trump campaign is so uncertain of its own claims that they're not even coughing up the $3 million for a recount after all.

[Ferguson97]

With the latest Apache County drop, Arizona now has the following estimated ballots left per https://arizona.vote/ballot-progress.html:

Ballots needing signature verification by 5pm MST Tuesday: 7553
Provisional ballots: 44668
Ballots ready for tabulation: 47178

Total: 99399

Using the same Trump-friendly assumptions as before:

50% of the ballots needing signature cures will be accepted.
80% of the provisionals will be accepted.
Trump will do 10% better (and Biden 10% worse) than the current margins in each county.

With these assumptions, an estimated 86689 ballots will be accepted, and Trump will gain a net 17231 of them.  He currently trails by 19348, so he would lose by 2117, compared to a projected loss by 1817 in the last update.

Jesus, that’s cutting it close

[Crumpets]

A friend of mine just posted a video from the area formerly known as CHOP, and people there are dancing, cheering, and flying American flags. Is this not what you wanted, conservatives?

[Alben Barkley]

A friend of mine just posted a video from the area formerly known as CHOP, and people there are dancing, cheering, and flying American flags. Is this not what you wanted, conservatives?

True patriots.

[wbrocks67]

Wait... did Biden *increase* his AZ lead?

[Bootes Void]

Wait... did Biden *increase* his AZ lead?

was from a blue county, maricopa should be dropping in half an hour. If it aint enough, all the networks will call it. It will be close but no cigar

[Ferguson97]

Wait... did Biden *increase* his AZ lead?

By a couple hundred votes I think

[Bootes Void]

A friend of mine just posted a video from the area formerly known as CHOP, and people there are dancing, cheering, and flying American flags. Is this not what you wanted, conservatives?

watch them find a way to be upset over people being patriotic.Anyway, they are all acting like sore losers especially Trump who hasnt conceded

[Bootes Void]

From NyTimes:Michael Grynbaum in New York

Fox News’s audience plummeted yesterday after Biden became president-elect. During the Biden/Harris speeches, Fox had 3 million viewers, the lowest total of any network.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/08/us/election-results?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#christian-conservatives-reflect-on-trumps-loss-and-look-ahead

[Mike88]

When is Alaska going to finish tallying its votes?

They will only start counting the mail votes during this week. So, during the week or by the end of it, more final results will be available from Alaska.

[Mike88]

About the Maricopa vote dump in an hour or so:

https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1325567242910593024