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« on: June 09, 2006, 11:39:15 PM »

Let's hope Strickland keeps his cash advantage through the fall:

Strickland Has Twice the Campaign Cash Blackwell Does

June 9, 2006 03:33 PM

COLUMBUS (AP) -- New numbers show Democrat Ted Strickland is sitting on twice the campaign cash as Kenneth Blackwell, his Republican opponent in the governor's race. Secretary of State Blackwell had to spend more than $1 million late in his primary fight against Jim Petro

As a result, a finance report shows Blackwell now has $1.2 million in his account with five months to go before the November election. But Congressman Strickland has $2.6 million on hand, according to a campaign spokesman. That's over $1 million more than 2002 Democratic candidate Tim Hagan raised during his entire gubernatorial campaign.

Ohio's race for governor is a journey through the looking glass. The Democrat, Rep. Ted Strickland, is a rural, pro-gun minister, which could make him appealing to some Republicans -- while the Republican, Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, is a black man who could draw votes from Democrats.

In this topsy-turvy political world, none of the usual assumptions hold, and even experienced prognosticators from both parties are hedging their bets. "I think the formula for winning Ohio needs to be rewritten," said Greg Haas, a Democratic consultant who led Bill Clinton to victory in the state in 1992. "For many reasons, including the candidates running this year, I don't think old models apply."
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 12:33:09 PM »

A republican would never be caught dead endorsing a democrat, especially the over-liberal Ted Strickland.  Ohio will never elect a man who is ranked as poorly as Ted is in the House, (3rd in missed votes).  Both canidates have come out against the GOP scandals (theres democrat ones too!), and both have come out against the discourse between congress and its constitution.  However Blackwell has real solutions to fix Ohio and Ted has no idea how to lead.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 01:34:14 PM »

A republican would never be caught dead endorsing a democrat, especially the over-liberal Ted Strickland.

Who mentioned anything about that?

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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 01:49:37 PM »
« Edited: July 23, 2006, 01:52:47 PM by Rob »

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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 06:15:16 PM »

solid Republican voters that will go to Strickland because he is well-liked in his district.

why would a republican vote for Strickland?
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2006, 08:17:43 PM »

The same reason that Republicans voted for Brian Schweitzer, Dave Freudenthal, Brad Henry, Kathleen Sebelius, Kent Conrad, Byron Dorgan, Ben Nelson, etc. etc.  Just because you would probably never vote Democratic doesn't mean that other Republicans are so blinkered.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2006, 08:33:18 PM »

Silly Joe.  All members of one political party are always supposed to vote for their candidate.  Just check out all the Lieberman/Lamont threads!
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2006, 08:38:46 PM »

The same reason that Republicans voted for Brian Schweitzer, Dave Freudenthal, Brad Henry, Kathleen Sebelius, Kent Conrad, Byron Dorgan, Ben Nelson, etc. etc.  Just because you would probably never vote Democratic doesn't mean that other Republicans are so blinkered.

Texasindy said that "solid republicans will go to Strickland"
Thats where my arguement came from! Strickland is much to liberal to sway any republicans to his side, and his poor record in the house will only further hurt his chances with any conservative. His values are that of Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2006, 08:41:08 PM »

His values are that of Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

No, they're not.  Voting records disprove your argument.  Strickland has a fairly moderate voting record in the House (and Clinton does in the Senate actually) but Kennedy is solidly liberal in the senate.  No comparison between Strickland and Kennedy.  (Do we have the Ohio version of Inks on our hands?)
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2006, 08:43:17 PM »

(Do we have the Ohio version of Inks on our hands?)

More likely the right-wing conservative equivalent of jfern.  They are both brainwashed. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 09:03:48 PM »

His values are that of Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

No, they're not.  Voting records disprove your argument.  Strickland has a fairly moderate voting record in the House.

The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 09:20:51 PM »


The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?

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And even if that's all objectively true it doesn't explain how he shares the values of the Hon. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 10:02:55 PM »

The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?

Post the list. Strickland probably ranks right up with other congressman running statewide campaigns this year. Don't be a fool.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2006, 10:18:27 PM »


The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?

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And even if that's all objectively true it doesn't explain how he shares the values of the Hon. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.

The Honerable.,..... HAHAH. All I was doing was comparing Stricklands liberal views like that of a very liberal no so honorable person like Ted K. or Hillary Clinton. 
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2006, 10:25:20 PM »


The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?

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And even if that's all objectively true it doesn't explain how he shares the values of the Hon. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.

The Honerable.,..... HAHAH. All I was doing was comparing Stricklands liberal views like that of a very liberal no so honorable person like Ted K. or Hillary Clinton. 

Whether your personal opinions are valid or not, the title 'honorable' is standard etiquitte in adressing a Senator.
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2006, 10:31:12 PM »


The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?

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And even if that's all objectively true it doesn't explain how he shares the values of the Hon. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.

The Honerable.,..... HAHAH. All I was doing was comparing Stricklands liberal views like that of a very liberal no so honorable person like Ted K. or Hillary Clinton. 

It is a title, not a declaration.

And we know what you are doing.  You just have failed to produce evidence of him being as liberal as the others, which you asserted.  That is, unless you are posting Blackwell press releases in here, which you might a well be doing.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2006, 10:36:34 PM »

Liberal=standing up for working class Americans
Conservative=standing up for large, multi-national corporations and exploiting workers

I'll take liberal anyday.
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2006, 10:46:51 PM »

You're such a hack.
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2006, 10:53:54 PM »

Republicans are the corporate party. Always have been, always will be.
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2006, 11:09:59 PM »

Republicans are the corporate party. Always have been, always will be.

i wish i had psychic powers like you!!!
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2006, 05:49:48 AM »


The Post’s U.S. Congress Votes Database found that Strickland has been absent from 133 votes on the House floor since January 2005. In accomplishments Strickland is ranked #402 out of 435 members. How can Ohio elect the 402 man from congress. Is that who we want as our Governor? Do we want a Governor who ranked in the top ten abscences. How can we have a Governor who won't even show up to his own job?

link/explanation of criteria used

And even if that's all objectively true it doesn't explain how he shares the values of the Hon. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts.

The Honerable.,..... HAHAH. All I was doing was comparing Stricklands liberal views like that of a very liberal no so honorable person like Ted K. or Hillary Clinton. 

It is a title, not a declaration.

And we know what you are doing.  You just have failed to produce evidence of him being as liberal as the others, which you asserted.  That is, unless you are posting Blackwell press releases in here, which you might a well be doing.

I know its a title, but I still don't think he deserves it. 
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