Socially Moderate, Economically Socialist (D), vs Fiscal Right-wing, Socially Woke (R)
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Shaula🏳️‍⚧️
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« on: October 29, 2020, 05:30:13 AM »

Imagine if in 2024, these are the two candidates. What would the map look like and who would win?

Republican:
Fiscally very Ron Paul-esque, running a campaign in the style of Mitt Romney or John McCain. Out of touch and rich but also extremely woke, like celeb twitter woke, saying LatinX and talking about non-issues like manspreading and mansplaining. Big business and pro-war and pro-intervention, very in favour of trans and gay rights, as well as BLM.

Democrat:
Socially moderate, against abortion and very skeptical on trans rights. Sort of in favor of BLM but HEAVILY against rioting. Very politically incorrect, making Trump-like gaffes all the time, however running a VERY populist campaign, very high energy with lots of enthusiastic crowds following. Economically democratic socialist, Bernie Sanders economically wise + UBI support. Very active on social media, making appearances on right and left wing online shows, including debating pundits.

My thoughts: https://www.270towin.com/maps/N2D3V.png
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2020, 05:58:53 AM »

What’s the Republican’s view on abortion? If they’re pro-choice, I think you could be looking at the Democrat making significant inroads in the South, especially when combined with the wokeness.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2020, 06:15:39 AM »

It ain't gonna happen in a bazillion years but if it happens I think that the Republican is beyond finished. If the Republican is pro-choice too then whoa Mississippi becomes Titanium D overnight.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2020, 11:42:46 AM »

If anything, this scenario with the parties reversed is way more likely.

However, as things would stand now, and with the parties you said, the Dem candidate would win a massive, masssive landslide. In fact, one of the greatest ever landslides. Assuming the Republican is pro-choice or neutral on the issue, here is my guess:



Dem: 508 EVs
Republican: 30 EVs
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2020, 11:45:51 AM »

If anything, this scenario with the parties reversed is way more likely.

I absolutely agree with this - except the Republican in question would spin the economic platform as "national populism" or "American Deal" or something like that and not as "democratic socialism".
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2020, 07:46:32 PM »

The Democrat would win in a landslide. Right-wing economics and identity politics are a very unpopular combination.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2020, 11:49:02 AM »

They wouldn't just win in a landslide. They'd win in a trends-reversing landslide, probably with something halfway to a 'Try to impeach this' map.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2020, 01:54:27 AM »

Dems would honestly be close to winning all 50 states. A platform like that would be staggeringly unpopular nationwide.
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