What's stopping Nikki Haley in 2024?
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2020, 10:13:17 AM »

The fact that the Republican base would rather continue with their failed attempts to 'own the libz' than actually engage in a party-rebuilding effort, such as that touted by the infamous autopsy.

And Trump won the election by doing the opposite of what the autopsy (which I'll defer to NCY for greater detail) said, where it's debatable whether Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio would have won in 2016-at least according to Sean Trende

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/10/30/the_future_of_the_gop_is_trumpy_144566.html

Trump won the election by luck. That's all it was: luck in that he ran at a time which saw a perfect storm of disadvantages arise for a widely-unpopular/hated Democratic nominee following a 2-term Democratic presidency with historic levels of political polarization. Seeing what's since happened to the GOP in 2018 & what's about to happen to them again on Tuesday night, the Trumpist platform that he ran on - which eschews outreach to minority communities, women, & young voters - simply won't be a sustainable proposition for the party going forward.
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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2020, 10:30:08 AM »

Haley vs. Hawley will be fun to watch. I have a feeling it comes to them.
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2020, 10:52:47 AM »

The main thing standing in her way would be other candidates.

As a state legislator, she was able to defeat in the primary a congressman and two statewide officeholders, so she has impressive chops.

But Mike Pence will be running as a former Vice President. Mike Pompeo will be running as a Secretary of State with business experience. Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott may be running as big-state Governors. Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley will be able to showboat as members of the Senate.

Haley does have some advantages, with a mix of executive and foreign-policy experience and primary opponents who would be glad to see her on a debate stage and happy to have her as a running mate. She's also able to avoid any blame for COVID policies.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2020, 09:55:31 PM »


Trump won the election by luck. That's all it was: luck in that he ran at a time which saw a perfect storm of disadvantages arise for a widely-unpopular/hated Democratic nominee following a 2-term Democratic presidency with historic levels of political polarization. Seeing what's since happened to the GOP in 2018 & what's about to happen to them again on Tuesday night, the Trumpist platform that he ran on - which eschews outreach to minority communities, women, & young voters - simply won't be a sustainable proposition for the party going forward.

You were saying, Mr Iowa-Sen is a tossup?  I'm sure Pelosi will be enjoying her 6-8 seat House majority.

When it's all said and done,  Mr Biden will win this election by much fewer than Trump's 78,000 votes in 2016.  Trump won your home state by over 3 points and Texas by 6 on the backs of a wave of Hispanic support that shifted by double digits in key areas, particularly the RGV.  And the GOP didn't lose a single state house.

Trump lost the election because he failed to fulfill his promises of economic populism and working class focused policies, which is not limited to just one racial group.  The Suburban shift has been happening since before Obama was elected, Trump just accelerated it one cycle earlier and the Suburbs are much more moderate now, a Romneyist couldn't save it for the GOP.

Nikki Haley is eminently qualified for the presidency and is of stellar character.  Unfortunately she exudes platitudes and pandering in the style of Charlie Kirk/TPUSA/Candace Owens, instead of policy that moves forward from the Tea Party and actually helps the working/middle class.  That's a disaster for a general election and the GOP.  This is also why she's unlikely to win the primary.
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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2020, 10:21:06 PM »

Trump's base isn't going to like her. She will be VERY easy to paint as a globalist, corporatist neocon because, well she is. Big warmonger. She'd certainly be able to run a decent primary campaign but not enough to win the nomination.
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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2020, 05:11:46 PM »

She's got establishment support and the retail politics for Iowa and New Hampshire. Not to mention
South Carolina in the bag. She's got the foreign policy credibility for the new tensions with China. She IS the Republican autopsy that was about including women and minorities in the party. She'll rip off head cleanly in the primary and general debates.

What's stopping her?

Her being a woman and a fake Indian doesn’t mean minorities and women will vote for her. She won’t win the general election against Joe Biden because there is zero enthusiasm on her side.
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2020, 05:16:32 PM »

Trump's base isn't going to like her. She will be VERY easy to paint as a globalist, corporatist neocon because, well she is. Big warmonger. She'd certainly be able to run a decent primary campaign but not enough to win the nomination.

The establishment will try to rig it. I heard the Republican Party was considering putting in super delegates for the 2020 primary back in 2016 when it looked like Trump would lose. You think the GOP establishment won’t try to pull the same dirty tricks that the Democratic establishment pulled in 2016?
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