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wbrocks67
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« on: October 26, 2020, 12:08:14 PM »

Much like the Gina Ortiz Jones and TX-SEN race in 2018, NYT/Siena remains incapable of properly polling TX.

If anyone honestly thinks Hegar is down 10 either, come on.

Funny how Nate does not reference how badly NYT/Siena did in TX in 2018 when they had Beto winning Hispanics by 19, only for him to go and win them by 29.
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wbrocks67
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2020, 12:09:32 PM »

Horrific poll for Republicans!



Yeah, if there is a 13% shift in this electorate, there's no way the overall state is only moving 5.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2020, 12:12:07 PM »

Also, yes, Biden definitely winning 18-29 year olds by only *HALF* the margin that Beto won by in 2018.

It's starting to become clearer than NYT/Siena is just really terrible in some states.

Let's go to Will Hurd for his 15 pt win in 2018.
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wbrocks67
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2020, 12:20:21 PM »

Why are we all trashing an A+ pollster just because we don’t like the result?

Because NYT/Siena has a horrible track record in TX. They had Cruz +8 and Hurd +15 in 2018, both way, way off. They seem to have a horrific time polling Latinos in TX specifically.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2020, 02:47:01 PM »

Cohn should be given the benefit of the doubt here. He did miss in Texas in 2018, but given how intelligent and transparent NYT/Siena has been previously about methodology, I'd have to think they would've tried to resolve their SW polling issue.

Either way, it seems ridiculous to constantly criticize an A+ pollster because you don't like their results. And then turn around and use a 25 LV subsample of Collin County to disprove the rest of their poll.

Nate's rather defensive though. He should be owning the 2018 mistakes but also saying this could be a mistake too. Instead hes pointing to NV and AZ polls that are "good for Biden, so we're probably not wrong!!!"
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