What undermimes marriage more?

[afleitch]

Methinks Bush is targeting the wrong people...

EDIT: I for one support civil unions first, then marriage as a possibility a generation down the line. I am just sick of gays and lesbians being made a scapegoat for a weakened President and peoples crappy marriage prospects.

[adam]

Marriage in general is a bad idea. I would say that it's worse enemy is intelligence.

[Jake]

The second, though both should be illegal.

[MaC]

Marriage in general is a bad idea.

I tend to think this way.

I'll have to write in: celebrity marraiges which are far worst than either.

[Bdub]

Option 1

[Speed of Sound]

#1.

Option 2 would make it better.

[© tweed]

Marraige is a human institution.

[??????????]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

[Ebowed]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

[nclib]

Option 1, by far.

[??????????]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

[nclib]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

So then should infertile [heterosexual] couples not be allowed to marry?

[WoosterLibertarian]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

where does it ever say this in the bible?? ive been unable to find where god says that gays and lesbians arent allowed to marry.

[??????????]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

where does it ever say this in the bible?? ive been unable to find where god says that gays and lesbians arent allowed to marry.

Obviously you haven't been reading your bible to well...or you're blind. Go read Leviticus or Romans some time.

So then should infertile [heterosexual] couples not be allowed to marry?

[© tweed]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

God is a concept and not a human institution.  (Although he's/she's a human creation, there's a difference)

[??????????]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

God is a concept and not a human institution.  (Although he's/she's a human creation, there's a difference)

No, God is the creator of the universe and the almighty.

[© tweed]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

God is a concept and not a human institution.  (Although he's/she's a human creation, there's a difference)

No, God is the creator of the universe and the almighty.

That is not a fact.  Of course, neither is what I said, but you can't limit marraige to a man and a woman on the basis that god created it that way.

[??????????]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

God is a concept and not a human institution.  (Although he's/she's a human creation, there's a difference)

No, God is the creator of the universe and the almighty.

That is not a fact.  Of course, neither is what I said, but you can't limit marraige to a man and a woman on the basis that god created it that way.

It is a fact and yes you can limit it based on that. Thats my personal belief and the belief of millions in this country. You athiests are just going to have to suck it up and deal with it.

[© tweed]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

God is a concept and not a human institution.  (Although he's/she's a human creation, there's a difference)

No, God is the creator of the universe and the almighty.

That is not a fact.  Of course, neither is what I said, but you can't limit marraige to a man and a woman on the basis that god created it that way.

It is a fact and yes you can limit it based on that. Thats my personal belief and the belief of millions in this country. You athiests are just going to have to suck it up and deal with it.

You just contradicted yourself.  At first, you called god's dictation of marraige as between a man and a woman a "fact" and then you called it "a personal belief and the belief of millions..."

It clearly isn't a fact.

[??????????]

Marraige is a human institution.

Yes, between a man and a woman, only.

Why?

Because God created marriage between a man and a woman for the purposes of procreation.

God is a concept and not a human institution.  (Although he's/she's a human creation, there's a difference)

No, God is the creator of the universe and the almighty.

That is not a fact.  Of course, neither is what I said, but you can't limit marraige to a man and a woman on the basis that god created it that way.

It is a fact and yes you can limit it based on that. Thats my personal belief and the belief of millions in this country. You athiests are just going to have to suck it up and deal with it.

You just contradicted yourself.  At first, you called god's dictation of marraige as between a man and a woman a "fact" and then you called it "a personal belief and the belief of millions..."

It clearly isn't a fact.

You can't believe in facts?

[Ebowed]

Go read Leviticus or Romans some time.

Leviticus 18

5 Keep my decrees and laws, for the man who obeys them will live by them. I am the LORD.

6 " 'No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the LORD.

7 " 'Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

8 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's wife; that would dishonor your father.

9 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father's daughter or your mother's daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

10 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your son's daughter or your daughter's daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 " 'Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father's wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your father's sister; she is your father's close relative.

13 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your mother's sister, because she is your mother's close relative.

14 " 'Do not dishonor your father's brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife; do not have relations with her.

16 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your brother's wife; that would dishonor your brother.

17 " 'Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 " 'Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

19 " 'Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

20 " 'Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor's wife and defile yourself with her.

21 " 'Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

22 " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

23 " 'Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

Good stuff.

[Ebowed]

Sorry, I forgot the punishments.

Leviticus 20

 9 " 'If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head.

 10 " 'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

 11 " 'If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 12 " 'If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

 13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 14 " 'If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.

 15 " 'If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

 16 " 'If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 17 " 'If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They must be cut off before the eyes of their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible.

 18 " 'If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people.

 19 " 'Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible.

 20 " 'If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless.

 21 " 'If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless.

[??????????]

Go tell it to those who follow the Jewish faith. They are bound by those dead laws. It has no relevance to a Christian.

[Ebowed]

Go tell it to those who follow the Jewish faith. They are bound by those dead laws. It has no relevance to a Christian.

Then why did you mention Leviticus as a reason gay marriage is banned in the Bible if it has no relevance to Christianity?

[??????????]

Oh, you already know where its mentioned again in the bible EBOWED. Go look it up yourself and quit playing idiot.