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« Reply #725 on: August 20, 2022, 12:55:46 PM »


Obviously SAFE-R because voters only care about The Economy™, which is a combination of commodities futures and the prices at the local Wegners.
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« Reply #726 on: August 20, 2022, 05:24:45 PM »

It would be interesting if Mandela Barnes pulls through. Do you think there will be a lot of Michels/Barnes split ticket voters or no? I still think Tim Michels is the favorite to win even if Mandela Barnes pills through, as Tony Evers is a very weak governor who didn’t accomplish much.

There were Baldwin/Walker voters in 2018, so why shouldn't there be this year? No matter how baffling we may find them, ticket-splitters exist.

Usually I would say that I'll take the Senate race going our way over the Governor's race since Senate elections affect the whole nation, but with election deniers like Michels, Mastriano, and Lake on the ballot this year those elections have national implications that are just as big. No major statewide Republican can win in any of those three states if we are to salvage this country.
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« Reply #727 on: August 20, 2022, 08:27:34 PM »

It would be interesting if Mandela Barnes pulls through. Do you think there will be a lot of Michels/Barnes split ticket voters or no? I still think Tim Michels is the favorite to win even if Mandela Barnes pills through, as Tony Evers is a very weak governor who didn’t accomplish much.

There were Baldwin/Walker voters in 2018, so why shouldn't there be this year? No matter how baffling we may find them, ticket-splitters exist.

Usually I would say that I'll take the Senate race going our way over the Governor's race since Senate elections affect the whole nation, but with election deniers like Michels, Mastriano, and Lake on the ballot this year those elections have national implications that are just as big. No major statewide Republican can win in any of those three states if we are to salvage this country.

Tbf in a hypoethetical outcome where Dems win 52 Senate seats (Hold all + PA + WI), yet lose several key governorships to election deniers, they'd have the votes to make serious reforms and safeguards to ensure 2024 goes smoothly. Now if Rs win back a federal trifecta that's when things get scary.
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« Reply #728 on: August 20, 2022, 08:49:21 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2022, 08:52:30 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

It would be interesting if Mandela Barnes pulls through. Do you think there will be a lot of Michels/Barnes split ticket voters or no? I still think Tim Michels is the favorite to win even if Mandela Barnes pills through, as Tony Evers is a very weak governor who didn’t accomplish much.

There were Baldwin/Walker voters in 2018, so why shouldn't there be this year? No matter how baffling we may find them, ticket-splitters exist.

Usually I would say that I'll take the Senate race going our way over the Governor's race since Senate elections affect the whole nation, but with election deniers like Michels, Mastriano, and Lake on the ballot this year those elections have national implications that are just as big. No major statewide Republican can win in any of those three states if we are to salvage this country.

Tbf in a hypoethetical outcome where Dems win 52 Senate seats (Hold all + PA + WI), yet lose several key governorships to election deniers, they'd have the votes to make serious reforms and safeguards to ensure 2024 goes smoothly. Now if Rs win back a federal trifecta that's when things get scary.

D's can wind up with more than 52 seats OH, NC and FL Act blue is heavily invested in Blk and Brown states and there is 15% Blk and 26 Latino and Arab and we had Bill Nelson, Hagen and Brown electected during Obama and Biden yrs

Cook and Sabato aren't gonna move those red states out of Lean R column because it's a 303 map but the maps are blank on EDay so the idea we can't win red states because the rankings is silly, Demings have a better chance than Crist and Nan W is tied with DeWine Ryan has way more money than Vance and only one poll has Vance AHEAD a conservative Emerson poll that says Trump gonna win OH by 15, NOT

McConnell said that OH is a battleground state like it or not Ryan and Nan Whaley can upset on Eday
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« Reply #729 on: August 20, 2022, 09:23:49 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2022, 09:29:13 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I think Warnock holds on but I believe we lose GA in 24 and it's 15 EC votes but win OH 18 making it once again 306 FEIWAL BROWN, RYAN0 NAN W are gonna get elected

That OH Lake poll 44/43  Nan W v DeWine looks very bad for Rs and theyre gonna lose KY in 23 and Manchin and Brown and Tester are gonna hold on 24, they won in 2012 where Romney win WV and MT even if WV goes 100/0R

Ryan and Nan W overperformed is no accident Beshear won in 2019 in Red Appalachian
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« Reply #730 on: August 21, 2022, 04:10:46 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW850wtmFvg

In fact Barnes is the only Democratic senate nominee in the country who has explicitly come out for abolishing ICE. That is extreme and careless and that will result to open borders and will worsen the border crisis. And every candidate who ran for office in a statewide race in a state that is either a toss-up state or a red state lost, including O'Rourke in Texas and Gillum in Florida.

And despite the fact that Milwaukee's homicide rate is up 100 %, he wants to eliminating cash bail.
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« Reply #731 on: August 22, 2022, 10:23:28 AM »

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« Reply #732 on: August 24, 2022, 03:00:48 PM »

This race has flown criminally under the radar compared to Ohio. Inching towards Tilt R as the environment improves imo.
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« Reply #733 on: August 24, 2022, 03:20:25 PM »



Dems should be blasting “the 1849 law is an exact mirror of my position” all over the state.
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« Reply #734 on: August 29, 2022, 09:16:05 AM »

My spouse and I have been watching a lot of Hulu lately, and pretty much all the ads are for either Barnes or RoJo. I did see ONE Tony Evers ad recently, but it's about 80% political ads and has been all about the senate, excluding the one for Evers.

Ron Johnson's ad sucks. It's focused entirely on the price of fuel, which is obviously less of a concern than even a month ago.

That said, Barnes's ads aren't significantly better, policy-info-wise. They are better in production value, and Barnes is actually in them actively, speaking directly to the viewer, which I find to be much more compelling. But it's PAC ads that are going hard core after RoJo, but they're not at all touching the abortion issue.

I find it really strange that none of the ads I've seen have mentioned Roe or Dobbs, and I also haven't seen anything mentioning how Johnson wants to privatize Medicare/Medicaid, but that may be simply because I'm watching a streaming service and ads relating to that are going on broadcast stations.
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« Reply #735 on: August 29, 2022, 09:21:02 AM »

It's really giving "low energy crazy grandpa spouting off crazy stuff to neighbors"

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« Reply #736 on: August 29, 2022, 09:28:34 AM »

It's really giving "low energy crazy grandpa spouting off crazy stuff to neighbors"



Liddle Ron Johnson, who is TRAILING in polls (even Trashfalgar!) and was caught pretending to be on a fake phone call, recently had a "rally" with VERY SMALL CROWD and gave a LOW ENERGY SPEECH. ZERO ENTHUSIASM, SAD! Vote for @theothermandela, he will codify Roe, is strong for Veterans and SUPPORTS OUR GREAT FBI, which the Radical Right want to defund! MANDELA IS 100% with us!
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« Reply #737 on: August 29, 2022, 09:46:36 AM »

My spouse and I have been watching a lot of Hulu lately, and pretty much all the ads are for either Barnes or RoJo. I did see ONE Tony Evers ad recently, but it's about 80% political ads and has been all about the senate, excluding the one for Evers.

Ron Johnson's ad sucks. It's focused entirely on the price of fuel, which is obviously less of a concern than even a month ago.

That said, Barnes's ads aren't significantly better, policy-info-wise. They are better in production value, and Barnes is actually in them actively, speaking directly to the viewer, which I find to be much more compelling. But it's PAC ads that are going hard core after RoJo, but they're not at all touching the abortion issue.

I find it really strange that none of the ads I've seen have mentioned Roe or Dobbs, and I also haven't seen anything mentioning how Johnson wants to privatize Medicare/Medicaid, but that may be simply because I'm watching a streaming service and ads relating to that are going on broadcast stations.

Interesting, you'd expect that Barnes ads would go in very hard for Dobbs, so yeah, I wonder if there's some strategy to focusing them more on TV rather than streaming.
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« Reply #738 on: August 29, 2022, 12:36:39 PM »

Based upon the recent special elections, it seems like if Barnes will outperform anywhere, it'll be in the Madison area. However, Madison is still only about 1/10th of the state, he'll have to find support elsewhere.

Idk if it's just me, but I really don't trust Waukesha County specifically as despite the County shifting to Biden and generally moving left, it doesn't seem like most of that shift is due to fundamental change within the electorate. The only County that seems true for is Ozaukee Couty where you see some very clear spillover of liberal whites and even some minorities.
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« Reply #739 on: August 29, 2022, 12:41:53 PM »

I think Barnes is one of the best candidates of this cycle. His ads are truly amazing.
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« Reply #740 on: August 29, 2022, 02:46:11 PM »

I think Barnes is one of the best candidates of this cycle. His ads are truly amazing.

Agreed. This is also the TV debate I'm most eager to watch here, along with Pennsylvania and Georgia.
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« Reply #741 on: August 30, 2022, 02:07:18 PM »

Meanwhile, over again at the Johnson campaign...

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« Reply #742 on: September 01, 2022, 04:14:39 PM »

Okay, but really, what is this campaign that Johnson is running this year?

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« Reply #743 on: September 01, 2022, 04:17:09 PM »

Okay, but really, what is this campaign that Johnson is running this year?



I was literally coming to this thread to share this exact same tweet.

One of the RoJo ads that's running right now is a pair of retired Wisconsinites, talking about how Johnson is the right person to protect them. I just. What even.
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« Reply #744 on: September 01, 2022, 04:23:27 PM »

It's like if Ron Johnson doesn't really give a s*it anymore.

After all he wanted to retire so no surprise
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« Reply #745 on: September 01, 2022, 06:03:38 PM »

Why are Republicans trying to provoke seniors so much this year?
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« Reply #746 on: September 01, 2022, 06:23:51 PM »

Based upon the recent special elections, it seems like if Barnes will outperform anywhere, it'll be in the Madison area. However, Madison is still only about 1/10th of the state, he'll have to find support elsewhere.

Idk if it's just me, but I really don't trust Waukesha County specifically as despite the County shifting to Biden and generally moving left, it doesn't seem like most of that shift is due to fundamental change within the electorate. The only County that seems true for is Ozaukee Couty where you see some very clear spillover of liberal whites and even some minorities.

I think it’ll be interesting to see. I think Ozaukee will definitely vote left of Waukesha, but Waukesha County is very college-educated. I feel like it will be like a dam giving way; if Waukesha really does see a 7-8% shift left this year, I highly doubt Ron Jon wins. Evers won statewide while getting 33% there, and if Barnes is putting up Biden numbers in Waukesha you can stick a fork in RonJon.
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« Reply #747 on: September 01, 2022, 06:48:12 PM »

Please tell me Barnes will put this in his ads. The case that Johnson doesn’t care about working class people shouldn’t be a hard one to make.
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« Reply #748 on: September 01, 2022, 08:29:58 PM »

Yeah idk what Johnson is feeding cause he's saying a lot of bad things that any remotely vulnerable running for re-election should never say. I'm not sure if he's doing it on purpose in some kind of 4D chess move to make himself seem more sane come Election Day in November or what. As much as I dislike Johnson he is a competent and smart dude so I'd expect a better campaign than this from him.
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« Reply #749 on: September 01, 2022, 10:26:31 PM »


I am being completely serious here: What has he said/done to make you think this? I honestly don't get this view.
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