WI-SEN 2022 Megathread: Who stole my cheese?

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Sen. Larson is out and has endorsed Barnes.

https://twitter.com/AJBayatpour/status/1422553810539528198?s=20

Is he insane? Barnes is about as electable as Martha Coakley

[SnowLabrador]

Democrats are the most incompetent political party in world history. Of course, it's not likely to matter for this particular race; GCB polling indicates a red wave, and the Democrats cannot win WI-SEN in a red wave.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Democrats are the most incompetent political party in world history. Of course, it's not likely to matter for this particular race; GCB polling indicates a red wave, and the Democrats cannot win WI-SEN in a red wave.

That's exactly why I don't care who gets nominated.

[Drew]

Add Dane County executive Joe Parisi to Barnes’ list of endorsements.

https://madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/election-matters/dane-county-executive-joe-parisi-endorses-mandela-barnes-for-senate/article_a448d047-595d-5e80-a090-5eed8528665e.html

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Democrats are the most incompetent political party in world history. Of course, it's not likely to matter for this particular race; GCB polling indicates a red wave, and the Democrats cannot win WI-SEN in a red wave.

Crist is ahead of DeSaNtus the poll in March Snowlabrador had D's leading Rs as much as 48/44 in 2 consecutive Change Polls

[walleye26]

Surprised Barnes is starting to get endorsements. I don’t see Barnes being able to win, but who knows.

[Lambsbread]

A lot of the "Barnes can't win" commentary seems to rooted in the same place where the "Lamb is the only one who can win PA" commentary is; complete guesses and gut feelings. There is absolutely no hard evidence that Barnes cannot win, especially against an insurrectionist and certified loon like Ron Johnson. I think a lot of folks around here are just giving into this "black progressives cannot win WWC-dominated electorates" mentality that has stymied genuinely good candidates. "Electability" arguments this far out, and especially in a primary, are lame. It's a cyclical argument of "they can't win because they can't win."

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

A lot of the "Barnes can't win" commentary seems to rooted in the same place where the "Lamb is the only one who can win PA" commentary is; complete guesses and gut feelings. There is absolutely no hard evidence that Barnes cannot win, especially against an insurrectionist and certified loon like Ron Johnson. I think a lot of folks around here are just giving into this "black progressives cannot win WWC-dominated electorates" mentality that has stymied genuinely good candidates. "Electability" arguments this far out, and especially in a primary, are lame. It's a cyclical argument of "they can't win because they can't win."

It really isn't. For one I don't support Lamb I think he's uninspiring and I don't want another Sinema. Progressives can win but they have to be the right type. Fetrerman for example looks like a wwc voter and could really relate to them for example.
2. Barnes being black is not why I think  he would be a bad candidate.. Barnes made comments about the Kenosha shooting that were viewed as having incited the riots. The ads write themselves.

[wbrocks67]

A lot of the "Barnes can't win" commentary seems to rooted in the same place where the "Lamb is the only one who can win PA" commentary is; complete guesses and gut feelings. There is absolutely no hard evidence that Barnes cannot win, especially against an insurrectionist and certified loon like Ron Johnson. I think a lot of folks around here are just giving into this "black progressives cannot win WWC-dominated electorates" mentality that has stymied genuinely good candidates. "Electability" arguments this far out, and especially in a primary, are lame. It's a cyclical argument of "they can't win because they can't win."

It really isn't. For one I don't support Lamb I think he's uninspiring and I don't want another Sinema. Progressives can win but they have to be the right type. Fetrerman for example looks like a wwc voter and could really relate to them for example.
2. Barnes being black is not why I think  he would be a bad candidate.. Barnes made comments about the Kenosha shooting that were viewed as having incited the riots. The ads write themselves.

There's no reason to believe Lamb would be another Sinema. The two really aren't that similar

[Gass3268]

Barnes is starting to roll in some endorsements:

https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela/status/1422645865169231875?s=20

https://twitter.com/TheOtherMandela/status/1423376425021804546?s=20

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Mandela Barnes is our best bet here

[walleye26]

Barnes endorsements make me think Kind won’t jump in, but Kind may be waiting to see how redistricting ends up.

[Flyersfan232]

who runs to replace to replace him as lt governor?

[windjammer]

So is Ron Johnson going to run or he's delaying his decision to be an attention whore?

[Progressive Pessimist]

So is Ron Johnson going to run or he's delaying his decision to be an attention whore?

"I would have announced sooner but Antifa took my announcement statement before I could make a copy!"

[Girlytree]

“I don’t feel like my time has been successful” ~ Ron Johnson
https://mobile.twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1428037546118770689

“I’d rather do something else.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/dabbs346/status/1428069923616608256

[SnowLabrador]

Lean R -> Likely R.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lean R -> Likely R.

Have you learned anything yet about WI, Biden has the same Approvals that he had on Election night, WI has voted for every D Prez and voted for Carter and Dukakis, Gore and Kerry loosing party candidates and Biden won the state 3x, Hillary should of won it but Gary Johnson took enough support to give trio of states to Biden, LOL ITS A 304 BLUE WALL


SENS RUSS FEINGOLD, HERB KOHL, TAMMY BALDWIN, THE STATE ONLY Voted for Johnson 350 K votes, Lean D TO

D Govs Him Doyle 2003/2011 Gov T Evers 2019 to Present, Gov Evers vetoed Voter Suppression laws

Didn't you say Whitmer and Ossoff and Warnock were gonna lose like your pal Milineienial Moderate

You said Gary Peters was gonna lose too


Milineienial Moderate is friends with Progressive Moderate that has an R hack map that have CCM losing, NOT

[wbrocks67]

Lean R -> Likely R.

How so? If Johnson ends up not running, this is straight tossup.

[SnowLabrador]

Lean R -> Likely R.

How so? If Johnson ends up not running, this is straight tossup.

Johnson is more likely to lose a general election than someone like Mike Gallagher. Of course, this will be a very hard seat for Democrats to win in the likely 2022 environment.

[Lambsbread]

Yeah, Johnson not running for re-election actually hurts Democrats unless the GOP runs an extremely boring candidate.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Don't listen to Snowlabrador he said Gary Peters, Whitmer, Warnock and Ossoff were all gonna to lose

[Xing]

Lean R -> Lean R. I highly doubt there are hoards of Any Republican but Johnson > Any Democrat > Johnson voters, or vice versa. Wisconsin isn’t exactly a state where being perceived as a centrist makes you more “electable”, nor does being perceived as far left/right function as a vice.

[Meatball Ron]

Yeah, Johnson not running for re-election actually hurts Democrats unless the GOP runs an extremely boring candidate.

Lean R -> Likely R.

How so? If Johnson ends up not running, this is straight tossup.

Johnson is more likely to lose a general election than someone like Mike Gallagher. Of course, this will be a very hard seat for Democrats to win in the likely 2022 environment.

I know this is the conventional wisdom on the site, because Johnson is "toxic" or "extreme" or "an insurrectionist" or whatever (these are all accurate labels; the scare quotes were to imply that they don't matter electorally). But do we have any real evidence that it's true? Given his over-performance in 2016, and the innate advantages of incumbency, and his presumable popularity among Trump voters...I'm just not sure he's any weaker than Gallagher or whomever the WI GOP would put up. MT Treasurer has made some good posts on this point and could probably argue it better than me.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Lean R -> Lean R. I highly doubt there are hoards of Any Republican but Johnson > Any Democrat > Johnson voters, or vice versa. Wisconsin isn’t exactly a state where being perceived as a centrist makes you more “electable”, nor does being perceived as far left/right function as a vice.

No it's not, if you really think D's can't make up 359 K votes that Johnson won and Baldwin won by a landslide you are kidding yourself, Russ Feingold almost won