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« on: October 23, 2020, 08:24:50 AM »

Oct 12-17, 1000 LV, MoE: 3.1%

Changes with Sept 7-12.

Trump 50% (-3)
Biden 38% (+3)
Jorgensen 3% (-2)
Hawkins 0% (n/c)
Other 1% (n/c)
Not sure 7% (+1)

Trump approval: 55/44 (+11)

Favorabilities:
Trump: 52/46 (+6)
Biden: 38/60 (-22)

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/10/22/21528825/news-poll-utahns-concerned-election-results-being-accepted-by-trump-biden-hinckley
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2020, 08:26:28 AM »

Sad.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2020, 08:27:26 AM »

Only + 12 in what used to be the most R state is a terrible for Trump
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2020, 08:27:40 AM »

I saw UT and my brain instantly went to Texas.Thank god!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2020, 08:29:26 AM »

I'll throw out a prediction. 55% Trump, 40% Biden, 5% other.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2020, 08:39:48 AM »

37.999% of Utahns...and Mitt!
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2020, 08:44:26 AM »

But yeah, an incumbent Republican President at 50 in Utah would have implied a beyond-apocalyptic nationwide environment for the GOP as recently as five years ago and if Interior West state Democratic parties are smart they'll try to capitalize on the weakening of Mormon bloc voting as much as possible while it lasts.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2020, 09:21:12 AM »

If they had included Kanye, Trump would have been under 50.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2020, 09:28:57 AM »

Biden will crack 40% in Utah and that will be good enough
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2020, 09:29:14 AM »

Utah isn't going D
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2020, 09:42:27 AM »


Who ever said it was?
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2020, 09:43:38 AM »

Biden will crack 40% in Utah and that will be good enough

This would be a post-1964 record, I believe.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2020, 10:01:12 AM »

I think Trump will be around 50% in Utah and will underperform in terms of margin compared to 2016.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2020, 10:21:50 AM »

I'm actually pretty surprised UT is even this close. A +12 Trump margin in UT implies significant erosion among LDS voters, which could hurt Trump in other western states like Arizona and Nevada.
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2020, 10:22:47 AM »

But yeah, an incumbent Republican President at 50 in Utah would have implied a beyond-apocalyptic nationwide environment for the GOP as recently as five years ago and if Interior West state Democratic parties are smart they'll try to capitalize on the weakening of Mormon bloc voting as much as possible while it lasts.

Outside of religion, Utah is a demographically good state for modern Democrats--lots of suburbs. Not sure to what extent the Mormon GOP lean can be overcome though.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2020, 10:24:12 AM »

But yeah, an incumbent Republican President at 50 in Utah would have implied a beyond-apocalyptic nationwide environment for the GOP as recently as five years ago and if Interior West state Democratic parties are smart they'll try to capitalize on the weakening of Mormon bloc voting as much as possible while it lasts.

Outside of religion, Utah is a demographically good state for modern Democrats--lots of suburbs. Not sure to what extent the Mormon GOP lean can be overcome though.

It probably depends heavily (much more so than in most states) on how pro-life Democratic candidates seem.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2020, 11:45:52 AM »

This poll indicates that Biden appears to be picking up the lionshare of Evan McMullin voters, which isn't surprising (though Trump is clearly gaining a number of these voters as well, and probably some of the Gary Johnson voters also). Nevertheless, my earlier prediction of a 55-40-5% result in Utah seems like it could be bearing fruit, and as has been said, would constitute the worst majority Republican performance here in decades (not counting the plurality wins of H.W. Bush in 1992 and Trump himself in 2016).
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2020, 12:02:08 PM »

lmfao trump up 12 in the 3rd most republican state in the union
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2020, 11:19:18 PM »

This poll indicates that Biden appears to be picking up the lionshare of Evan McMullin voters, which isn't surprising (though Trump is clearly gaining a number of these voters as well, and probably some of the Gary Johnson voters also). Nevertheless, my earlier prediction of a 55-40-5% result in Utah seems like it could be bearing fruit, and as has been said, would constitute the worst majority Republican performance here in decades (not counting the plurality wins of H.W. Bush in 1992 and Trump himself in 2016).

I think the last poll of Utah that I recall had McMullin voters splitting roughly 40% Biden- 40% Trump- 20% undecided (Or something similar).

I didn't see a specific breakdown in this poll, but yes by logical inference the topline numbers would appear to suggest that the former "undecided" McMullin 2020 voters are breaking heavily against Trump.

DEM Swings in Davis County, and to some extent Utah County should be interesting to watch, not to mention Salt Lake County becoming a 50%+1 Democratic County in 2020 (and most likely significantly higher than 50% exceeding the Obama narrow plurality win over McCain in '08).

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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2020, 11:57:30 PM »

Hard to see Burgess Owens winning if these numbers are close to accurate.
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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2020, 12:47:44 PM »

Incredibly weak for a Republican nominee for President. Mitt Romney won Utah by almost 40% against one of the strongest incumbent Presidents ever eight years ago.

 
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2020, 12:58:40 PM »

seems accurate.

60-40 is my guess. maybe 58-42.

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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2020, 02:06:57 PM »

New Poll: Utah President by RMG Research on 2020-10-17

Summary: D: 38%, R: 50%, U: 7%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2020, 01:14:17 PM »

Cory Booker would've made it Safe D.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2020, 01:44:12 PM »

I think the actual margin will be roughly this in the end.
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