CNN: Biden +4 in FL, +10 in PA

[ProudModerate2]

Beautiful numbers.

[Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

CNN used a different pollster in PA in 2016.

[TopShelfGoal]

Likely voter screens producing better numbers for the Ds than Registered Voters is hillarious. Whether it is real or not, it just underscores how much Trump screwed the pooch by essentially discouraging his voters to lock their votes in early by using a method that requires way less work and is more convenient to the voter.

[Liberalrocks]

Leslie Stahl bounce for Trump?

[Figueira]

Am I right in saying that for a long time Atlas was convinced that PA was the most likely of the three lost rustbelt states to flip back & was by far easier than Michigan or Wisconin?

I think it's been Michigan for most of the time since 2016, but many people expected Biden to be especially strong in Pennsylvania due to his roots there and his personality being a good fit.

[Gass3268]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

[Hammy]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

They, along with Quinnipiac, were among the few who over-polled Hillary. Most states both came in a bit higher than their polling totals, so undecideds were the problem.

Though I concede as pointed out a few posts back that CNN at least seems to have used a different company last time.

[Badger]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

Hey! That's a full half percentage Point more than Clinton actually got! Total hack polling!

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

October 15-20

FL
847 likely voters
MoE: 4%

Biden 50%
Trump 46%
Hawkins 1%
Jorgensen 1%
Other 0% (but some voters)
None of these 0% (but some voters)
No opinion 1%

Among 906 registered voters (for trends' sake)
MoE: 3.9%
Changes with July 18-24

Biden 48% (-3)
Trump 46% (n/c)
Hawkins 2% (not previously included)
Jorgensen 1% (not previously included)
Other 1%
None of these 1%
No opinion 1% (-1)

PA
843 likely voters
MoE: 4%

Biden 53%
Trump 43%
Jorgensen 2%
Other 1%
None of these 0% (but some voters)
No opinion 1%

[TheLaRocca]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

Hey! That's a full half percentage Point more than Clinton actually got! Total hack polling!

By that logic (that they had Clinton at 48%) Biden would win PA with 53% of the vote lol.

[WD]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

Hey! That's a full half percentage Point more than Clinton actually got! Total hack polling!

By that logic (that they had Clinton at 48%) Biden would win PA with 53% of the vote lol.

Which he can and likely will.

[TheLaRocca]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

Hey! That's a full half percentage Point more than Clinton actually got! Total hack polling!

By that logic (that they had Clinton at 48%) Biden would win PA with 53% of the vote lol.

Which he can and likely will.

If Biden is breaking 50 in PA he is winning MI/WI. These states won't vote more than a point apart like um 2016.

[WD]

Just a reminder, CNN over-polled Hillary in Pennsylvania. They are not, by any measure, a "quality pollster"

There last PA poll was 48-44 Clinton.

Hey! That's a full half percentage Point more than Clinton actually got! Total hack polling!

By that logic (that they had Clinton at 48%) Biden would win PA with 53% of the vote lol.

Which he can and likely will.

If Biden is breaking 50 in PA he is winning MI/WI. These states won't vote more than a point apart like um 2016.

Yes, I agree. He’s winning all 3.

[Rand]

Biden doesn’t even need Florida.

In fact, nobody needs Florida. We can grow oranges elsewhere.

[Progressive Pessimist]

lol They’re talking about this poll on CNN right now. The Chyron says: “No Clear leader in FL”

In reality that is probably the case, but the poll for Florida so obviously says otherwise. I hate when the media does this. It reminds me of a few weeks ago when I they were talking about Biden being up by double-digits nationally but with "mixed" results in swing states: those results being Biden being up everywhere except Texas. Apparently Biden needs to be leading in every single swing state by large margins to be rightly considered the obvious front-runner by every metric.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

I still could see a scenario where Trump holds Florida, but it doesn't really matter if he still loses PA, MI, WIS, AZ, and potentially NC. I'm not quite sold on GA flipping yet

I think GA is more likely to flip then NC.

[Lief 🗽]

New Poll: Pennsylvania President by CNN/ORC on 2020-10-20

Summary: D: 53%, R: 43%, U: 1%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

[Lief 🗽]

New Poll: Florida President by CNN/ORC on 2020-10-20

Summary: D: 50%, R: 46%, U: 1%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details