AZ, FL, MI, NC, PA, WI - Change Research/CNBC: Biden +6, +5, +7, +3, +2, +8
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« on: October 20, 2020, 07:52:51 PM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/20/voters-want-senate-to-choose-coronavirus-stimulus-over-supreme-court.html

October 16-19
Changes with October 2-4

AZ
Biden 51% (n/c)
Trump 45% (n/c)

FL
Biden 50% (n/c)
Trump 45% (-1)

MI
Biden 51% (n/c)
Trump 44% (+1)

NC
Biden 50% (+1)
Trump 47% (n/c)

PA
Biden 49% (-1)
Trump 47% (+1)

WI
Biden 52% (+1)
Trump 44% (n/c)
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2020, 07:53:39 PM »
Doubtful about those PA numbers.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2020, 07:54:02 PM »
I think the Biden leads in FL have been inflated, but make no mistake, if Biden is winning by FL by any margin greater than 1%, the race is absolutely over. PA also will not be this close.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2020, 07:54:10 PM »
Change Research thinks Minnesota and Florida are voting in line with each other!  
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2020, 07:55:46 PM »
lol FL bluer than PA? Doubt it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2020, 07:56:01 PM »
Not much change from last time, but really, what is up with PA? We get all these low quality polls showing a sort of tight race, and then high quality polls showing Biden up high single digits or even double digits. There's a noticeable divide in PA between higher and lower quality polls.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2020, 07:56:20 PM »
I mean I told you all that the Sunbelt could very well be more D than the rustbelt.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2020, 07:57:27 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on October 20, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
Change Research thinks Minnesota and Florida are voting in line with each other!  

That's because Change Research is trash. Up there with Emerson, Tragalger, Rasmussen, and Quinnipiac in Florida.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2020, 07:58:12 PM »
Quote from: TheLaRocca on October 20, 2020, 07:56:20 PM
I mean I told you all that the Sunbelt could very well be more D than the rustbelt.

It definately can be, but Change research is a very unreliable pollster; let's see if other pollsters start saying this too.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 07:58:16 PM »
Tightening!

In all seriousness these polls are good

I’m not worried about Pennsylvania
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2020, 07:59:49 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on October 20, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
Change Research thinks Minnesota and Florida are voting in line with each other!  

More possible then ya'll think.

Biden winning AZ and losing MN is even possible TBH.
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2020, 07:59:59 PM »
That Pennsylvania number is nonsensical, but whatever I'll take the set.
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2020, 08:00:34 PM »
Lol, FL and NC voting to the left of PA.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 08:00:54 PM »
« Edited: October 20, 2020, 08:12:29 PM by Make PA Blue Again! »
Change has always been bullish on Biden's chances in Florida, but pessimistic about him in Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2020, 08:01:02 PM »
Quote from: TheLaRocca on October 20, 2020, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: Buzz on October 20, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
Change Research thinks Minnesota and Florida are voting in line with each other!  

More possible then ya'll think.

Biden winning AZ and losing MN is even possible TBH.

No.
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2020, 08:02:43 PM »
Pennsylvania is weird. Right of NC? no way
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2020, 08:03:39 PM »
Quote from: Bootes Void on October 20, 2020, 08:02:43 PM
Pennsylvania is weird. Right of NC? no way

Quite possible actually.

I don't think people here really understand the sunbelt shift (and rust belt shift right).
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2020, 08:04:42 PM »
Quote from: kph14 on October 20, 2020, 08:01:02 PM
Quote from: TheLaRocca on October 20, 2020, 07:59:49 PM
Quote from: Buzz on October 20, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
Change Research thinks Minnesota and Florida are voting in line with each other!  

More possible then ya'll think.

Biden winning AZ and losing MN is even possible TBH.

No.

Just because Walter Mondale won Minnesota does not mean Democrats will win the state for the next 500 years.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2020, 08:13:08 PM »
Junk poll.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2020, 08:15:29 PM »
Swap Florida's and Pennsylvania's numbers around and it makes some sense.
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2020, 08:16:16 PM »
50+ across the board is all that matters
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2020, 08:22:38 PM »
The PA number makes this drop nonsense.
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2020, 08:24:00 PM »

If the swings with olds are real...then I would expect FL to be to the left of PA.
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« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2020, 08:33:17 PM »
If Biden wins AZ, MI and WI

And Trump wins PA, NC and FL

And everything else stays the same from 2016, and no electors defect,

Then it is 269-269 and the House elects Trump. Want to see more polls of NE-02 now.
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2020, 08:34:17 PM »
Quote from: Beet on October 20, 2020, 08:33:17 PM
If Biden wins AZ, MI and WI

And Trump wins PA, NC and FL

And everything else stays the same from 2016, and no electors defect,

Then it is 269-269 and the House elects Trump. Want to see more polls of NE-02 now.

Biden wins FL before PA IMO.
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