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« on: October 17, 2020, 10:32:25 AM »

Trump 51%
Biden 45% (-1)
Jorgensen 1% (new)
Hawkins 1% (new)

https://moscout.com/daily-updates-1/2020/10/17/moscout-daily-update-koenigs-cavalry-poll-shows-parson-lead-cleaner-in-flames-hallway-sees-dem-gains-in-house-and-more
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2020, 10:33:29 AM »

Yikes
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2020, 10:34:52 AM »

Inb4 “(R)emington”
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2020, 10:35:33 AM »

Ouch Ouch Ouch.
We saw an Indiana poll not too long ago which was Trump+7 or so. Since MO and IN tend to vote very closely, perhaps this is a sign Trump's position in the MW will detoriate further.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2020, 10:36:49 AM »

Bad poll for Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2020, 10:37:09 AM »

Before anyone freaks out! Remington had the same poll out at the same time out in 2016 - 47% Trump - 42% Trump + 5 (10/9-10/11 2016)
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2020, 10:37:55 AM »

Remington is a pretty good pollster so this is concerning for Trump
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2020, 10:40:20 AM »

Before anyone freaks out! Remington had the same poll out at the same time out in 2016 - 47% Trump - 42% Trump + 5 (10/9-10/11 2016)

Yes, right at the height of Access Hollywood. Would people stop with these comparisons to "at the same time in 2016" they just aren't an apples to apples comparison.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2020, 10:47:00 AM »

Before anyone freaks out! Remington had the same poll out at the same time out in 2016 - 47% Trump - 42% Trump + 5 (10/9-10/11 2016)

No, regardless of the spin, this is still a bad poll for Trump.  Remington had him up by twelve in the last edition of its poll before the election (10/31-11/1, 51-39)
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2020, 10:49:24 AM »
« Edited: October 17, 2020, 10:56:14 AM by TiltsAreUnderrated »

October 14-15
1010 likely voters
Changes with September 30-October 1

Undecided 2% (-1)
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2020, 11:11:38 AM »

Yea Biden at 45% here is not good for Trump. Most of the mid-October thru ED polls of MO had Hillary at low 40s or under 40%. Biden has been polling at 44-46% here mostly
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2020, 11:14:35 AM »

If MO is even a smidge closer than it was in 2016, Trump is in real trouble. We keep getting polls that show a single digit race, and I have a hard time seeing how polls would be off by 10% +, though they could definately be off.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2020, 11:28:33 AM »

Welp, Biden could actually get close to 45% in MO. The St. Louis suburbs will swing D by a fair amount, though I don't see the state as a battleground. Neither does Biden need it, though these solid R states trending D will give Biden another boost for the NPV.

That said, Likely R.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2020, 12:26:08 PM »

Before anyone freaks out! Remington had the same poll out at the same time out in 2016 - 47% Trump - 42% Trump + 5 (10/9-10/11 2016)

No, regardless of the spin, this is still a bad poll for Trump.  Remington had him up by twelve in the last edition of its poll before the election (10/31-11/1, 51-39)

yup agreed he should end up winning by around ten in my opinion indiana and missouri will likely vote very similar
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2020, 12:46:04 PM »

Still doubting, but the consistency of polls is impressive.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2020, 01:05:13 PM »

Missouri will have about the same result as the 2018 senate race IMO.
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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2020, 01:20:30 PM »

Before anyone freaks out! Remington had the same poll out at the same time out in 2016 - 47% Trump - 42% Trump + 5 (10/9-10/11 2016)

That's 11% undecided versus 4% now
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2020, 01:38:51 PM »

Must be an awful lot of shy Trump voters in Missouri.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2020, 01:53:19 PM »

Missouri polling has been pretty bad the last two cycles.  Will be interesting to see if 2020 is improved.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2020, 04:10:52 PM »

Before anyone freaks out! Remington had the same poll out at the same time out in 2016 - 47% Trump - 42% Trump + 5 (10/9-10/11 2016)

Because 2016 is forever.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2020, 04:43:32 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2020, 05:39:31 PM by woodley park »

The trend almost across the board is that Joe Biden is improving in areas where the Democrats had lost ground. In virtually every poll, Biden does better against Trump than Hillary did in 2016; whether it’s statewide in places like Missouri or Republican-leaning districts in toss-up states, Biden is doing better. The sole exception appears to be with Hispanics in Miami-Dade. But due to his performance everywhere else, there’s no question that Biden will win the national popular vote, and likely by a significant margin. If he can keep Trump from running away with the vote in rural areas in the swing states, then Biden should prevail statewide, and thus win with a comfortable margin in the Electoral College.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2020, 06:53:12 PM »

MO-02 would probably flip with that statewide margin.
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2020, 07:06:04 PM »

Welp, Biden could actually get close to 45% in MO. The St. Louis suburbs will swing D by a fair amount, though I don't see the state as a battleground. Neither does Biden need it, though these solid R states trending D will give Biden another boost for the NPV.

That said, Likely R.

I would also look at Clay and Platte counties in the Kansas City Metro Area.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2020, 07:16:45 PM »

Welp, Biden could actually get close to 45% in MO. The St. Louis suburbs will swing D by a fair amount, though I don't see the state as a battleground. Neither does Biden need it, though these solid R states trending D will give Biden another boost for the NPV.

That said, Likely R.

I would also look at Clay and Platte counties in the Kansas City Metro Area.

Springfield MO likely flips as well in 2020 with these margins, meaning Greene County turns into a much smaller margin of victory deep in the heart of the Republican strongholds of SW MO.

See below for some recent election numbers out of Springfield.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=386520.msg7580377#msg7580377
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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2020, 07:22:57 PM »

Galloway is gonna lose, but Blunts polls look weak, she could be talked into running for Senate in 2022, even in a Biden midterm.  Parson is too popular
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