Toppling Lincoln's statue

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1315615717199409153

A little lesson
https://twitter.com/JGuehenno/status/1315650508351328256

[SWE]

Part of the Lost Cause pro-Confederate revisionist history involved waging a propaganda war against Lincoln - after all, if you want to argue the Civil War wasn't about slavery, it's a bit inconvenient to acknowledge that the leader of the Union was waging war against slavery with good intentions. And so, a false narrative arose that Lincoln was actually indifferent to slavery and only used it as a political chip, which has been propped up by cherrypicked quotes which are either out of context (ie "if I could preserve the Union without freeing a single slave," where he was obviously lying if you're aware of his audience and actions), reflect views he held from before his presidency, or are outright fabrications (he wanted to deport slaves back to Africa). For some reason, large segments of the woke left have decided to serve as useful idiots for Confederate sympathizers and parrot this badhistory uncritically.

In fairness, this particular protest seems to be spurred by a reaction to Lincoln's indigenous policies, which, while hardly unique, are a much more fair criticism and I'm not going to defend them. So my point isn't super relevant here but it's a rant I've wanted to get off my chest and this was a good excuse to do it.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Historically speaking two of America's best presidents, even if they held some racist views by today's standards. But back then probably everybody did by today's standards, up to and including Thaddeus Stevens. And both presidents were in all likelihood not as bad as Columbus, actually.

So, f**ing waste of energy going after their statutes, there are much more pressing matters to adress.

[KaiserDave]

Two great replies above me

[F. Joe Haydn]

Massively horrible move. If they were Andrew Jackson statues that were being toppled I would support it however.

[TJ in Oregon]

Amazed it took this long.

[RINO Tom]

Amazed it took this long.

Sadly, this.  And, needless to say, these people are losers, and this was a completely deplorable act.

[😥]

Obviously, very, very horrible move. It is sad that the protests from a clear ideological movement, which really fought for equal rights for all people, turned into horrible violence, looting, demolition of monuments to one of the best, if not the best, President of the United States

[John Dule]

It was only a matter of time before the Iconocaust started going after these two.

[GeneralMacArthur]

Portland antifa teens do really stupid thing and it makes national news.  For like the millionth time this cycle.

Don't these kids have disappointed parents to shame them into submission?

[Kingpoleon]

Maybe we should cancel Sojourner Truth for failing to topple the capitalist oppressor class, too.

[Ferguson97]

Don’t really care.

[RINO Tom]

Don’t really care.

Many people do?  “I don’t care” is not really a relevant response.

[John Dule]

Maybe we should cancel Sojourner Truth for failing to topple the capitalist oppressor class, too.

I'm waiting for #CancelMLK for that letter he wrote to the gay kid.

[PSOL]

Only statues of Harriet Tubman and Fred Hampton will be acceptable in the future

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Portland antifa teens do really stupid thing and it makes national news.  For like the millionth time this cycle.

Don't these kids have disappointed parents to shame them into submission?

[beaver2.0]

Horrible move.  I have no doubt that Lincoln had some bad views, but when you weigh everything out I see him as a net positive.

[7,052,770]

Lincoln's actions speak louder than his words, whatever those may have been.

[HillGoose]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh ngl i bet the people doing this are stupid what do they hope to accomplish lmao

[Big Abraham]

Toppling statues in general is an HP move

Toppling statues of two major FFs in American history? Giga HP move

I really, really hate Portlanders sometimes

By the way, these statues were/are city icons. I have great memories from them when I was younger, as I would often meet friends by the park blocks where they once stood. I do not usually get "sentimental" over pieces of bronze, but these two are something of an exception

[Big Abraham]

Maybe we should cancel Sojourner Truth for failing to topple the capitalist oppressor class, too.

I'm waiting for #CancelMLK for that letter he wrote to the gay kid.

Or they could go after Harriet Tubman next. Kanye West/"woke" progressives unity?

[KaiserDave]

Toppling statues in general is an HP move

Toppling statues of two major FFs in American history? Giga HP move

I really, really hate Portlanders sometimes

By the way, these statues were/are city icons. I have great memories from them when I was younger, as I would often meet friends by the park blocks where they once stood. I do not usually get "sentimental" over pieces of bronze, but these two are something of an exception

I have a Lincoln statue near me like that. I’d sure be mad if it was toppled

[Santander]

Worst President in US history and responsible for a literal genocide, so obviously FF to pull his statues down.

[The Dowager Mod]

Worst President in US history and responsible for a literal genocide, so obviously FF to pull his statues down.

The quality of your trolling has been slipping lately.

[Santander]

Worst President in US history and responsible for a literal genocide, so obviously FF to pull his statues down.

The quality of your trolling has been slipping lately.

Apologies. I'll try to pick it up, coach.