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roxas11
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« on: October 10, 2020, 08:05:28 AM »

Contrary to popular opinion I think a decent number of those black undecideds will vote Trump or stay home. Same for what few white undecideds there are left. Since there's likely more social pressure in the black community to be anti-Trump, there have been more "undecideds" in the polls this cycle.

With all due respect as a black voter I find this comment to be silly and ridiculous

Friends and family that I know are not anti trump because somebody put social pressure on them
They are anti Trump because they simply don't like the man or his policies

people have lost their jobs during all of this and they have also lost friends and family members thanks largely to trump poor response to this virus.  

Its a slap in the face to say them being rightfully upset with trump is not because of his failures as a president but its simply because of social pressure



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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2020, 12:46:29 PM »

Contrary to popular opinion I think a decent number of those black undecideds will vote Trump or stay home. Same for what few white undecideds there are left. Since there's likely more social pressure in the black community to be anti-Trump, there have been more "undecideds" in the polls this cycle.

With all due respect as a black voter I find this comment to be silly and ridiculous

Friends and family that I know are not anti trump because somebody put social pressure on them
They are anti Trump because they simply don't like the man or his policies

people have lost their jobs during all of this and they have also lost friends and family members thanks largely to trump poor response to this virus.  

Its a slap in the face to say them being rightfully upset with trump is not because of his failures as a president but its simply because of social pressure





I suppose the question is, with all that in mind why are 9% of black voters in GA still undecided?

I suspect its because many of that 9% are probably just like my aunt

In 2016 she did not like trump but because she was a vey religious woman she ended up voting for him anyway. At first she was not going to vote at all but she ended being swayed by the very poplar evangelical pastors she watched on TV

It would not surprise me at all if at least some on that 9 percent felt the same way she did which is why they are still conflicted about about who they will vote for 
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roxas11
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 01:07:26 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2020, 01:11:00 PM by roxas11 »

Contrary to popular opinion I think a decent number of those black undecideds will vote Trump or stay home. Same for what few white undecideds there are left. Since there's likely more social pressure in the black community to be anti-Trump, there have been more "undecideds" in the polls this cycle.

With all due respect as a black voter I find this comment to be silly and ridiculous

Friends and family that I know are not anti trump because somebody put social pressure on them
They are anti Trump because they simply don't like the man or his policies

people have lost their jobs during all of this and they have also lost friends and family members thanks largely to trump poor response to this virus.  

Its a slap in the face to say them being rightfully upset with trump is not because of his failures as a president but its simply because of social pressure





I suppose the question is, with all that in mind why are 9% of black voters in GA still undecided?


Because Trump has more appeal in the black community than most care to admit, especially here.

Well if that is the case I have seen no evidence of it in the past 4 years and Im in a red state like Louisiana so if trump was getting growing black support I would have seen something by now

but so far not 1 single friend or family member has ever came up to me and said they now support Trump in 2020. Even my aunt who voted for him 2016 is not supporting him this time around

now as you said maybe GA is different but in Louisiana many black voters around here still don't like or support Trump



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roxas11
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 02:24:12 PM »
« Edited: October 10, 2020, 02:28:57 PM by roxas11 »

Contrary to popular opinion I think a decent number of those black undecideds will vote Trump or stay home. Same for what few white undecideds there are left. Since there's likely more social pressure in the black community to be anti-Trump, there have been more "undecideds" in the polls this cycle.

With all due respect as a black voter I find this comment to be silly and ridiculous

Friends and family that I know are not anti trump because somebody put social pressure on them
They are anti Trump because they simply don't like the man or his policies

people have lost their jobs during all of this and they have also lost friends and family members thanks largely to trump poor response to this virus.  

Its a slap in the face to say them being rightfully upset with trump is not because of his failures as a president but its simply because of social pressure





I suppose the question is, with all that in mind why are 9% of black voters in GA still undecided?


Because Trump has more appeal in the black community than most care to admit, especially here.

Well if that is the case I have seen no evidence of it in the past 4 years and Im in a red state like Louisiana so if trump was getting growing black support I would have seen something by now

but so far not 1 single friend or family member has ever came up to me and said they now support Trump in 2020. Even my aunt who voted for him 2016 is not supporting him this time around

now as you said maybe GA is different but in Louisiana many black voters around here still don't like or support Trump




If you compare this week's Pew poll to their poll from exactly four years ago, black voters, even black women are one of the few groups Trump has improved with. I don't think there's some enormous secret black vote for trump, could even be a dead cat bounce, but it's there.

And as Kalimantan pointed out, if everything you say about Trump is true, and I believe that it is I hate the guy, why are 9% of Georgian black voters still undecided? social pressure is not something that is unique to the black community nor was I implying that it was, but because Trump is not popular in said community don't you agree that his supporters there might be a little less inclined to speak up? I believe what you've said about your family but that's only qualitative, if you're an outspoken Biden supporter, Trump supporters will probably be less likely to open up to you. that is something that is true across the country, people don't want to get in political arguments especially with those close to them.

My only point - don't assume that a pool of undecided voters strongly leans Biden just because that pool of voters is mostly not white. it is 3 weeks from the election and they're still undecided, obviously Trump's doing something to keep them interested.

You make a good point but in my case offline Im actually not some outspoken liberal or Biden supporter. Im a registered independent voter and admittedly more moderate when it comes to many issue ( Im definitely not a Bernie bro )

I have also never been the type to try to force my politics on anybody which I why my Trump supporting coworker's don't mind talking politics around me because they know im not the type to get upset or offended over something like that

finally trust me my family has never been shy about telling me how they really feel about politics or politicians nor do they care if I disagree with them or not lol

They are definitely not shy about anything especially when it comes to their feelings about Trump and the current Covid crisis



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