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« on: October 09, 2020, 09:53:03 AM »

Trump 48%
Biden 44%

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/az-pres-1020/
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 09:53:42 AM »

I don't put much faith in Trafalgar, but AZ is obviously not a guaranteed flip. Trump could potentially win it by a hair, it's just far more likely that it goes to Biden.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2020, 09:53:55 AM »

> Trashfalgar
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2020, 09:55:38 AM »

Tendentious
Reasoning
And
Fanciful
Arithmetic
Leaves
Greatly
Absurd
Results
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2020, 09:55:48 AM »

I don't care
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2020, 09:55:59 AM »

Who needs public polling when you can just have Trafalgar (R)? Get a quote today
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2020, 10:01:30 AM »

October 6-8
1087 likely voters
MoE: 2.89%
Changes with August 5-8
Trends calculated pre-rounding

Trump 48% (+2)
Biden 44% (+1)
Jorgensen 2% (-1)
Someone else 2% (n/c)
Undecided 5% (n/c)
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2020, 10:03:05 AM »

I needed a Traflagar poll like this for my Friday!




Obviously take with a massive grain of salt, but AZ does seem to be closer than we first expected.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2020, 10:06:03 AM »

Obviously take with a massive grain of salt, but AZ does seem to be closer than we first expected.

Yeah, Biden definitely shouldn't take this state for granted, even though I do think he's a bit more heavily favored there than the polling average indicates due to the classic Southwestern R polling bias. Trump by mid-single digits is obviously absurd though.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 10:08:04 AM »

I needed a Traflagar poll like this for my Friday!




Obviously take with a massive grain of salt, but AZ does seem to be closer than we first expected.

Nobody expected AZ to go for Biden by more than 5 pts. I think it will be 3 pts, about 50-47%. Kelly will outperform Biden by a few points, winning in mid to high single digits.

AZ is probably one of the last, if not the last state to be called. If current numbers are somewhat accurate, Biden will be over 270 long before.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2020, 10:25:25 AM »

Traf *cough* algar sweating like *cough* dogs *cough.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2020, 10:34:20 AM »

After the election Trafalgar will either look like complete hacks never to be taken seriously again, or as utter geniuses. My money in on the former.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2020, 10:35:31 AM »

T(R)afalgar
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2020, 10:42:03 AM »

Trump probably wins this state by 1,000 votes. Watch it happen.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2020, 10:45:40 AM »

Buzz spends weeks denouncing very poll unfavorable to Trump and then takes Trafalgar seriously. How desperate can you be.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2020, 10:49:14 AM »

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2020, 10:49:58 AM »

Why don't they ever release cross-tabs? There's actually no data here - just the end result and their age, race breakdown etc...
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2020, 10:51:20 AM »

Buzz spends weeks denouncing very poll unfavorable to Trump and then takes Trafalgar seriously. How desperate can you be.
Did you  read a word I said or nah? I said to take it with a massive grain of salt.  There has been numerous polls lately showing AZ competitive compared to the 7-8 points Biden leads we were seeing.  Trafalgar was off in AZ by 4 points in 2018, which would still make this poll competitive.  Trump is more popular than Mcsally though.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2020, 11:09:48 AM »

I could see Trump eeking it out in AZ, but there's no way Biden is anywhere near 44%. If this was 48-48 it would be more believable.
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 11:11:39 AM »

New Poll: Arizona President by Trafalgar Group on 2020-10-08

Summary: D: 44%, R: 48%, U: 4%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 11:13:37 AM »

Biden drops to 279 EV in the Atlas poll map as a result, his 2nd-lowest showing since May and -71 EV since last week:



https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2020/polls.php

Trump lost 44 EV since last week.
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2020, 11:18:51 AM »

This poll is trying to make people believe Trump is coming back
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 11:20:24 AM »

Biden drops to 279 EV in the Atlas poll map as a result, his 2nd-lowest showing since May and -71 EV since last week.

Trump lost 44 EV since last week.

On the other hand, Biden has remained above 270 EV for the past half year, without ever dropping below - something that neither Hillary nor Obama in 2008 and 2012, nor Kerry in 2004 achieved (Obama 2008 only in the last month or so):

2020:



2016:



2012:



2008:



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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 11:44:29 AM »

Buzz spends weeks denouncing very poll unfavorable to Trump and then takes Trafalgar seriously. How desperate can you be.

It's been a rough election cycle for them. Let them have this one.
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 11:45:34 AM »

And so the comeback begins...
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