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Alcibiades
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« on: October 23, 2020, 08:50:54 AM »

If anyone on earth can think they can make an informed determination about COVID spread in K-12 schools based on what we know (ESPECIALLY in the US)... yikes. Imagine if we tested K-12 kids as much as we did college students...

No one test gyms, indoor restaurants or barber shops, either, and none of it is essential. Kids' education is. Kids need it supervising badly, esp from poor families.

And, as I said, evidence suggests that re-opening of schools does not worsen the overall situation. So, the only good reason to close school is if there is an actual outbreak in it.

To me it seems so odd that many Americans are lukewarm on school reopenings, while in the UK there is (rightfully) a cross-partisan consensus that schools should remain open at all costs, and be the last places to close and the first to reopen.
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Alcibiades
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2020, 05:38:06 PM »
« Edited: October 25, 2020, 06:06:37 PM by Alcibiades »


F[inks] this.

Seriously, this is not how any competent developed nation in the world acts.


France and Spain and Italy and the UK and the Netherlands and Belgium (among many others) all have way more per capita new cases than the US does right now.  Would you consider these competent developed nations?

I do. Because they are actually working to suppress spread of the virus. Also, 'right now' is pretty important here. The UK only passed the US again in the past fortnight, before that the US was ahead in this metric since March.

Please. Letting a virus spread has never been a good idea when the stakes are this high. The AIDS crisis became a pandemic because Reagan's team ignored it until it became a public health disaster. Measles outbreaks have become rampant thanks to vaccine refusal and an inclination to ignore public health advice. COVID-19 is a coronavirus, and all evidence suggests that it will continue to mutate year after year, rendering vaccines ineffective after a couple of years.

For the vaccines to be effective, it would far better to constrict the disease to a small infected population, so that they could be vaccinated. Otherwise, new strains and quasispecies of the virus will continue to develop every few months, and thwart efforts to treat it much in the same way influenza does. We have barely any effective antivirals against influenza, and require new vaccines every year.

Actually the evidence indicates that SARS-CoV-2 is relatively stable and is not showing signs of mutating anywhere near as much as, say, influenza. That is not to say that people will not gave to be re-vaccinated quite often, but this will be because the effects of the vaccine wear off, and it is not likely that new vaccines will have to be produced to deal with mutations.
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