COVID-19 Megathread 6: Return of the Omicron
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #5000 on: July 15, 2021, 12:30:10 PM »
One thing about these Elections and take Biden 59% Approvals with a Grain of Salt is that we are not from under Covid and unless Covid is fully Eradicated, at least in 2022, we are gonna remain polarized just as we were in 2020

If the Covid is Eradicated, by 2024, then we can see a lifting of polarization, because Biden did his job by Eradicating COVID

All I know, is that the border, Student loans and Covid and Prosecution of Trump wasn't easy as it seemed as he was a candidate

They said there is no need for a 3rd booster shot but a flu vaccine is always available
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« Reply #5001 on: July 15, 2021, 01:12:01 PM »
Quote from: Fmr. Gov. NickG on July 15, 2021, 11:31:28 AM
Quote from: jimmie on July 15, 2021, 06:32:11 AM
What exactly do yall want in regards to mitigation measures?

I would like us to actually enforce mask mandates for unvaccinated adults.
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« Reply #5002 on: July 15, 2021, 01:40:20 PM »
Quote from: jimmie on July 15, 2021, 06:32:11 AM
What exactly do yall want in regards to mitigation measures?

Enforced mask mandates for unvaccinated, and mandatory vaccination, and requiring masks in schools since not all children are eligible for vaccination.

No mask, no evidence of vaccination? charged with a crime.
Continued refusal to vaccinate? No entry to school, your boss has the right to fire you, and face fines that will pile up.

All public employees and healthcare workers who don't vaccinate should also be barred, not only from working, but from entering schools, public buildings, or healthcare facilities, with or without a mask.
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« Reply #5003 on: July 15, 2021, 01:52:27 PM »
Quote from: jimmie on July 15, 2021, 06:32:11 AM
What exactly do yall want in regards to mitigation measures?

Vaccination is the only major measure so far that's accomplished anything positive.

If we didn't have vaccines yet, I'd probably just encourage people to stay outdoors in places like parks and beaches where they can spread out.
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« Reply #5004 on: July 15, 2021, 03:04:43 PM »

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« Reply #5005 on: July 15, 2021, 03:10:10 PM »
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on July 15, 2021, 03:04:43 PM



Well that's not gonna happen obviously.

And besides that the R is nowhere near 6. In the worst states, it's maybe 1.4.
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« Reply #5006 on: July 15, 2021, 03:24:13 PM »
Quote from: Bandit3 the Worker on July 15, 2021, 03:10:10 PM
Quote from: GeorgiaModerate on July 15, 2021, 03:04:43 PM



Well that's not gonna happen obviously.

And besides that the R is nowhere near 6. In the worst states, it's maybe 1.4.
Probably better to look at the UK or Israel since they are further into the wave.
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« Reply #5007 on: July 15, 2021, 03:27:43 PM »
Quote from: Forumlurker on July 15, 2021, 03:24:13 PM
Probably better to look at the UK or Israel since they are further into the wave.

I think the U.K. and Israel just stopped vaccinating people, or there aren't many people left who want the vaccine.
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« Reply #5008 on: July 15, 2021, 03:28:39 PM »
Quote from: Bandit3 the Worker on July 15, 2021, 03:27:43 PM
Quote from: Forumlurker on July 15, 2021, 03:24:13 PM
Probably better to look at the UK or Israel since they are further into the wave.

I think the U.K. and Israel just stopped vaccinating people, or there aren't many people left who want the vaccine.
Bro...they have higher vaccination rates.
And literally everything you said applies to the US.
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« Reply #5009 on: July 15, 2021, 04:59:33 PM »
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-again-requirinhttps://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-county-again-requiring-masks-indoors-starting-saturday/g-masks-indoors-starting-saturday/

LA county to bring back mask mandates.
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« Reply #5010 on: July 15, 2021, 05:00:32 PM »
So sometime in January?

Covid vaccines for kids under 12 expected midwinter, FDA official says
After emergency use authorization, the agency hopes to move quickly to full approval.
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« Reply #5011 on: July 15, 2021, 05:04:56 PM »

For pity's sakes, why???

I'm done with this mask B.S.  I've been vaccinated, and I'm not going to walk around in a mask just to protect people who choose not to get vaccinated.
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« Reply #5012 on: July 15, 2021, 05:13:58 PM »

Joke county.
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« Reply #5013 on: July 15, 2021, 05:33:35 PM »

Why not mandate vaccines?
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« Reply #5014 on: July 15, 2021, 06:14:44 PM »

Because that is seen as vastly more invasive than a mask mandate.

Not saying I support that logic, but that's the logic at work.
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« Reply #5015 on: July 15, 2021, 06:17:57 PM »

I'm not happy to hear about this, but thank God I don't live in California or Los Angeles County. Hopefully, this does not spread to other jurisdictions.
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« Reply #5016 on: July 15, 2021, 07:00:53 PM »

Also, it's considerably easier to see whether someone is wearing a mask than whether they've been vaccinated.
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« Reply #5017 on: July 15, 2021, 07:49:33 PM »
California Dems continue to be an embarrassment. I wonder if the more sane Republicans feel the same about the Arizona GOP or something.
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« Reply #5018 on: July 15, 2021, 08:36:36 PM »

One is unconstitutional, the other should be unconstitutional but isn't.  I guess everyone can go and shop in neighboring Orange County, where the COVID variant ceases to exist.... or something.
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« Reply #5019 on: July 15, 2021, 10:12:53 PM »
Quote from: DabbingSanta on July 15, 2021, 08:36:36 PM

One is unconstitutional, the other should be unconstitutional but isn't.  I guess everyone can go and shop in neighboring Orange County, where the COVID variant ceases to exist.... or something.
We get it Santa, you want more people to die so that you don’t have to deliver as many presents next year.
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« Reply #5020 on: July 16, 2021, 08:55:28 AM »
I think mask mandates should only apply to unvaccinated people or in very small closed rooms. That would create a bigger incentive to get vaccinated than a constitutionally questionable mandate.

Major problem here is the Delta variant; seems like we're in race between herd immunity and new variants ever since Aplpha variant came along. We'd be in better shaße worldwide without the variants, ero if it was still the original virus.
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« Reply #5021 on: July 16, 2021, 09:05:42 AM »
Absolutely no measures should be in place anywhere in the United States where ICU beds aren’t near capacity, period.
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« Reply #5022 on: July 16, 2021, 09:10:10 AM »
Quote from: Forumlurker on July 15, 2021, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: DabbingSanta on July 15, 2021, 08:36:36 PM

One is unconstitutional, the other should be unconstitutional but isn't.  I guess everyone can go and shop in neighboring Orange County, where the COVID variant ceases to exist.... or something.
We get it Santa, you want more people to die so that you don’t have to deliver as many presents next year.
Aw damn, you've exposed me. And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids! Sad
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« Reply #5023 on: July 16, 2021, 09:14:31 AM »
I will not fight against indoor mask mandates. Especially in crowded venues.
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« Reply #5024 on: July 16, 2021, 12:18:57 PM »
Quote from: jimmie on July 16, 2021, 09:14:31 AM
I will not fight against indoor mask mandates. Especially in crowded venues.
I will! I’ve done my part — I’ve worn the masks, got the vaccine, did the year+ of social isolation and online work and online school. I’ve done everything asked of me, the whole time. And I’m done! No more. Vaccinated people are much less likely to shed virus, much less likely to contract it, and are almost never hospitalized. The only reason to impose a mask mandate on the vaccinated is security theater to coddle people who have already been offered and refused a vaccine.

We’re headed toward a country where half the people are unvaccinated and doing whatever they want, and the vaccinated half is stuck doing masks/isolation/whatever else in a futile attempt to accommodate the other half. I’m tired of it. If some antivaxxers want to risk it, that’s on them, but the rest of us need to stop moving the goalposts and get back to normal life. In the county I work in, we’re at 89.4% of 16+ year olds vaccinated. 99%+ of hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated, and we only have a dozen patients hospitalized with COVID. The hospitals aren’t being overrun, we’ve vaccinated nearly everybody, and the vaccines work. We can't let the small handful of unvaccinated take our lives hostage.
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