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Gass3268
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« on: October 08, 2020, 11:16:50 PM »
« edited: October 08, 2020, 11:21:29 PM by Gass3268 »

Biden 52 (-1)
Trump 42 (-3)

Changes are from July 27-August 2. A rare PEW poll that is released right after it was taken, not 1-2 weeks afterwards like normal.


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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 11:22:43 PM »

Obviously not good for Trump, and just another double digit poll to add to this weeks list.  Noticing a trend with Biden maxing out around 52.  Goes with my PV prediction of it ending up around 52-46.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2020, 11:24:26 PM »

Pew is a high quality pollster. It's a shame they only poll once in a blue moon. This will probably be their final poll of 2020
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 11:25:34 PM »

Would like to see Biden ahead by more but I'll take it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 11:27:50 PM »

Would like to see Biden ahead by more but I'll take it.

Is this sarcasm? Because +10 is pretty good.
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 11:28:26 PM »

lol the education gap

White people with a college degree - Biden +21
White people with no college degree - Trump +26
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 11:29:10 PM »

Will this poll finally be the one that pushes the 538 average over the 'double-digit' edge?
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 11:31:45 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2020, 11:41:23 PM by Make PA Blue Again! »

Which candidate voters trust to handle certain issues-

Economy: Trump+1
Law and order: Biden+4
Supreme Court: Biden+6
Foreign policy: Biden+9
Coronavirus: Biden+17
Uniting the country: Biden+20
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 11:31:49 PM »

Apparently current 3rd party voters lean Trump +10


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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 11:32:32 PM »

Would like to see Biden ahead by more but I'll take it.

Is this sarcasm? Because +10 is pretty good.

I think 9-10 is about the minimum Biden has to win by without it being stolen in one way or another.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2020, 11:33:41 PM »

The issues:

Economy: Trump+1
Law and order: Biden+4
Supreme Court: Biden+6
Foreign policy: Biden+9
Coronavirus: Biden+17
Uniting the country: Biden+20

Qualities:
Compassionate: Biden +33
Good Role Model: Biden +26
Honset: Biden +18
Courageous: Biden +6
Mentally Sharp: Trump +4 (lol after this last week)
Stands Up For What He Believes In: Trump +8
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 11:35:55 PM »

Would like to see Biden ahead by more but I'll take it.

Is this sarcasm? Because +10 is pretty good.

I think 9-10 is about the minimum Biden has to win by without it being stolen in one way or another.

You’re a joke
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2020, 11:36:55 PM »

Mentally sharp........
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 11:37:01 PM »

Would like to see Biden ahead by more but I'll take it.

Is this sarcasm? Because +10 is pretty good.

I think 9-10 is about the minimum Biden has to win by without it being stolen in one way or another.

You’re a joke

Only one in four countries that experience democratic backsliding have recovered. Not good odds.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2020, 11:45:54 PM »

how do people seriously believe trump is mentally sharp, I will never understand
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2020, 11:47:28 PM »

Massive sample size and a solid response rate.

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2020, 11:54:23 PM »
« Edited: October 09, 2020, 08:22:32 AM by Arch »

Massive sample size and a solid response rate.



That's a really tight methodology. The range is Biden+7 to Biden+13 with MoE applied.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2020, 12:01:21 AM »



Used the Cook demographic calculator and plugged those in, and put turnout at 65% to match the margin (+6 to +7) this would realistically produce.


Stands Up For What He Believes In: Trump +8

Not sure why this is on there as it's too subjective and not always a good thing depending on what one believes.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2020, 12:02:46 AM »

Yeah, Biden basically consolidated the anti-Trump undecideds (nonwhite young men....which explains why Bidens jumped from low 50s with Hispanics to mid-60s in the past month) and some undecided olds. brings him up to 52% which is the % that really dislikes Trump.

The remaining undecideds / third voters are right-wingers who dislike Trump due to his repugnant behavior. So 52-42 and the last 6% (the last 6% break Trump 60-40).

That's my read on this.
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 12:04:33 AM »

Apparently current 3rd party voters lean Trump +10

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This makes sense considering Libertarians recently have done about 3x better than Greens.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 12:06:33 AM »

Some posters want a horse race so bad, they really believe Trump will get almost every undecided voter... not taking into account the fact that undecideds hate Trump more.
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2020, 12:07:34 AM »

The fact that Trump is only +1 on the economy is awful for him. This is/was his one strong spot. Hell, it's been the strong spot for any Republican, in any given national election. The fact that this poll has him basically tied with Biden (and there was another poll recently that actually showed Biden ahead on the economy) means it's basically done. He's got nothing left.
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 12:08:12 AM »

There's a lot of people on this forum who are obsessed with politics yet have no idea how elections work. I suggest you all find new hobbies.
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 12:26:15 AM »

Would like to see Biden ahead by more but I'll take it.

Is this sarcasm? Because +10 is pretty good.

I think 9-10 is about the minimum Biden has to win by without it being stolen in one way or another.

You’re a joke

Only one in four countries that experience democratic backsliding have recovered. Not good odds.

US hasn't "backslided" democratically, at least not unless you also count the Bush and Reagan administrations as such. 2018 midterms demonstrated this.

Anyways this poll is much more "normal" compared to other ones in terms of crosstabs-ie Biden doing strongly with seniors without the large leads you see in some. Feel Biden can improve a bit with Latinos and WWC voters with some more bread and butter type ads, but overall he has a solid lead.
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 12:34:02 AM »

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