Pelosi: “Tomorrow we are going to be talking about the 25th Amendment.”

[pbrower2a]

It would make Mike Pence, for all practical purposes, President of the United States.

[emailking]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

[Dr. Arch]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

Imagine decidedly losing a 2-hour debate to someone that you purport to be "sleepy" and "out of it." What does that say about you?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

Imagine decidedly losing a 2-hour debate to someone that you purport to be "sleepy" and "out of it." What does that say about you?

Trump losing the debate had nothing to do with Biden.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

What?

[Wakie77]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

What?

Trump is mentally ill.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Pelosi trying to remove Trump just shows you the degree to which is going to great lengths to hold out on the stimulus til after the election. aOC is telling her to do this, AOC went on TV and said since Trump pulled out of stimulus they are gonna get a filibuster proof majority in Senate

But, a stimulus deal will be reached before Xmas

[T'Chenka]

Pelosi trying to remove Trump just shows you the degree to which is going to great lengths to hold out on the stimulus til after the election. aOC is telling her to do this, AOC went on TV and said since Trump pulled out of stimulus they are gonna get a filibuster proof majority in Senate

But, a stimulus deal will be reached before Xmas

AOC is Pelosi's Marxist puppet master.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

So he admits he's going to lose? Otherwise, replacing Joe Biden with Kamala makes no sense.

[Figueira]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1314591877765660675

Imagine decidedly losing a 2-hour debate to someone that you purport to be "sleepy" and "out of it." What does that say about you?

Trump losing the debate had nothing to do with Biden.

That's kind of Arch's point?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This is why the Congress approvals are so low, no stimulus and 25th Amendment and ACB nomination

[Stuart98]

Pelosi trying to remove Trump just shows you the degree to which is going to great lengths to hold out on the stimulus til after the election. aOC is telling her to do this, AOC went on TV and said since Trump pulled out of stimulus they are gonna get a filibuster proof majority in Senate

But, a stimulus deal will be reached before Xmas

woah woah woah hollup

OC, you're now predicting Democrats take 60 senate seats?

[Figueira]

Pelosi trying to remove Trump just shows you the degree to which is going to great lengths to hold out on the stimulus til after the election. aOC is telling her to do this, AOC went on TV and said since Trump pulled out of stimulus they are gonna get a filibuster proof majority in Senate

But, a stimulus deal will be reached before Xmas

woah woah woah hollup

OC, you're now predicting Democrats take 60 senate seats?

"A filibuster proof majority" in practice is enough Senators who are willing to get rid of the filibuster.

Not sure how many that is, though. Maybe 52 or 53 seats.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Pelosi trying to remove Trump just shows you the degree to which is going to great lengths to hold out on the stimulus til after the election. aOC is telling her to do this, AOC went on TV and said since Trump pulled out of stimulus they are gonna get a filibuster proof majority in Senate

But, a stimulus deal will be reached before Xmas

woah woah woah hollup

OC, you're now predicting Democrats take 60 senate seats?

"A filibuster proof majority" in practice is enough Senators who are willing to get rid of the filibuster.

Not sure how many that is, though. Maybe 52 or 53 seats.

What's the difference between my maps and pbower2A maps, they are basically the same thing

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

[SteveRogers]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

You know that the 25th Amendment of the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to create a body outside of the cabinet for this purpose, right? Honestly, why do you even post In topics like this if you’re not going to read up on the basic legal issues involved?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

You know that the 25th Amendment of the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to create a body outside of the cabinet for this purpose, right? Honestly, why do you even post In topics like this if you’re not going to read up on the basic legal issues involved?

Congress hasn't established that Commission yet.  This is a hamhanded attempt to do so.

[SteveRogers]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

You know that the 25th Amendment of the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to create a body outside of the cabinet for this purpose, right? Honestly, why do you even post In topics like this if you’re not going to read up on the basic legal issues involved?

Congress hasn't established that Commission yet.  This is a hamhanded attempt to do so.

Right, Pelosi is proposing a bill that would have to be passed by Congress. So what exactly makes the proposal “unconstitutional” as you asserted several times?

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

You know that the 25th Amendment of the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to create a body outside of the cabinet for this purpose, right? Honestly, why do you even post In topics like this if you’re not going to read up on the basic legal issues involved?

Congress hasn't established that Commission yet.  This is a hamhanded attempt to do so.

Right, Pelosi is proposing a bill that would have to be passed by Congress. So what exactly makes the proposal “unconstitutional” as you asserted several times?

Section 4:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[6]

What's going to happen when Joe Biden says he's up to the job?

This cockamamie scheme is a receipe for a Constitutional Crisis.

[brucejoel99]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

You know that the 25th Amendment of the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to create a body outside of the cabinet for this purpose, right? Honestly, why do you even post In topics like this if you’re not going to read up on the basic legal issues involved?

Congress hasn't established that Commission yet.  This is a hamhanded attempt to do so.

Right, Pelosi is proposing a bill that would have to be passed by Congress. So what exactly makes the proposal “unconstitutional” as you asserted several times?

Section 4:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[6]

What's going to happen when Joe Biden says he's up to the job?

This cockamamie scheme is a receipe for a Constitutional Crisis.

Simple question: do you or do you not know what "unconstitutional" means?

[The Dowager Mod]

 "such other body as Congress may by law provide"
I like how our resident constitutional scholar says that something literally written in the constitution is unconstitutional.  

[SteveRogers]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

Right now, declaring a President incapacitated would involve a vote of the Cabinet.  This is something that gets dicey; it would tax the loyalty of a Cabinet official to vote their boss out, especially when (A) your boss picked you for your job and (B) you well may not have been the pick of the new boss. (Just ask JFK's Cabinet when LBJ took office.)  Creating a "commission" bypasses all of that.  I doubt Pelosi's idea will pass Congress and I doubt even more that it will pass Constitutional muster, but it's not about Trump.  She even specified that this was about "future President" and look who's the most likely "future President" at this moment.

You know that the 25th Amendment of the Constitution specifically empowers Congress to create a body outside of the cabinet for this purpose, right? Honestly, why do you even post In topics like this if you’re not going to read up on the basic legal issues involved?

Congress hasn't established that Commission yet.  This is a hamhanded attempt to do so.

Right, Pelosi is proposing a bill that would have to be passed by Congress. So what exactly makes the proposal “unconstitutional” as you asserted several times?

Section 4:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[6]

What's going to happen when Joe Biden says he's up to the job?

This cockamamie scheme is a receipe for a Constitutional Crisis.

Is this a trick question? Read the next two sentences. If the VP and the commission still think the President is incapacitated, then they submit a letter to Congress saying so. Then Congress votes on it, and it takes a 2/3 vote in both houses to keep the President from resuming his duties.

[Pericles]

This seems like the dumbest possible thing to do less than a month from the election. But I'd be shocked if House Dem leadership wasn't doing something stupid at any given moment.

Nah. As usual Nancy's crazy like a fox. She's setting up a procedure to set up a commission to review when a president should be incapacitated and removed via the 25th Amendment due to medical and psychological problems. She's not trying to invoke it against Trump directly. However, it's very clearly and loudly sends the message that Trump is the reason behind it and helps to focus attention on the fact that he is physically and mentally degenerating in a downward spiral more akin to a kamikaze pilot. If she plays her cards right it just might create enough fire and outrage from Trump and his sycophants that it helps amplify the ongoing media story about Trump losing it.

People have tried to portray Trump as a 4D chess player when he can't even managed Checkers adequately. Nancy's the Real Genius here.

She's the genius only because she's hidden the fact that this unconstitutional cockamamie proposal isn't about Donald Trump; it's about Joe Biden.  It's about being able to remove Senile Joe from office and install Der Kommissar Kamala Harris as President.

This is ridiculous and tiresome crap, it's sad that you have been reduced to posting this. Please don't make me have to rebut this, improve your posting quality.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Pelosi needs 2/3rds of Congress to pass and amendment and AOC said they pulled out of stimulus talks due to D's want a 60/40 Senate, not a good negotiating tactic