Changed his mind! Trump now wants a second stimulus deal

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I bet Trump will learn from his mistake

Okay, Susan Collins.

[Beet]

I'm not so sure of Dems would want this, it may help Trump win back some support. It's a conflicting thing

Yeah, the more one thinks of it, the more it seems it'd be better for Pelosi to wait until after the election. It's only 3 more weeks and giving Trump a huge positive headline and deal to brag about in the closing weeks could hand him the election.

[Torrain]

TBH, I think that Pelosi should go for it.

She has decent leverage, and if she helps write a decent stimulus bill, there are only really two ways it can go down:
1. The bill passes, leading to a stimulus written by both parties, that blunts the economic impact of COVID over the lame duck peroid.
2. The Senate kills the bill, leading Trump to lambaste vulnerable GOP senators with days to go before the election.

[Senator Incitatus]

Like I said earlier, he should do as much as he can via executive order. But barring that, he (or his team) wants to be the one to get credit for bringing Congress to the table and to do it as close to Election Day as possible. Nothing if not a showman.

If the Democrats obstruct his "change of heart" for political purposes, they wind up looking like the bad guys. (When really the Club for Growth types and Stephen Moore were probably the biggest obstacle all along.)

[Horus]

Whatever Pelosi does she needs to think about it carefully. If she plays this wrong it will almost certainly result in Trump's reelection. The stimulus is the only card he has left but it's a major one.

[Blair]

Whatever Pelosi does she needs to think about it carefully. If she plays this wrong it will almost certainly result in Trump's reelection. The stimulus is the only card he has left but it's a major one.

Haven't you said this about everything?

[Dr. Arch]

Whatever Pelosi does she needs to think about it carefully. If she plays this wrong it will almost certainly result in Trump's reelection. The stimulus is the only card he has left but it's a major one.

Haven't you said this about everything?

Literally everything.

[KYRockefeller]

Could a last second stimulus save Trump?  I just can't see it.  I think a lot of voters ideas are already baked in but maybe this gets his COVID diagnosis off the front pages in the closing days.

[Progressive Pessimist]

Nobody is going to change their mind about Trump because he finally decided to do his job and sign a bill. He didn't get any real positive effects from the first one, and I doubt that he will for this potential deal too. I don't even think him signing one will put the coronavirus out of the news. These talks have been going on for weeks yet are barely a blip on the radar of the mainstream news media.

I've said this before, but after all his antics from the past two weeks alone this election seems to have become as much about Trump himself and his personality as it is about policy and his actual performance as President. Trump is incapable of changing and that will continue to undermine any achievement he hopes to tout.

[forsythvoter]

Passing a bill could bring some positive press coverage but they missed the window for any bill to directly impact people's wallets in time for election day. It took weeks last time for the stimulus payments to be sent out iirc

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

It's so transparently clear that the best course of action is for Nancy to refuse to give an inch, let Trump either flail or make the Senate GOP look like the misers who want to immiserate Americans (have fun with that, Susan and Cory and Martha and Thom!).

If the Democrats win everything in November, have the House pass an even bigger stimulus bill the day after the election. If the Senate GOP tries to filibuster, tell them their options are either to take down the filibuster or the filibuster will be abolished altogether. The suicidal Freedom Caucus members call their bluff and the filibuster goes bye-bye.

[JRP1994]

Pelosi should demand that any stimulus deal includes a provision establishing a $5 tax penalty for not having insurance under the ACA, thereby rendering the lawsuit against it moot.

Edit: on second thought, no she shouldn't. She shouldn't give an inch. Trump made his bed, let him lie in it.

[Badger]

Whatever Pelosi does she needs to think about it carefully. If she plays this wrong it will almost certainly result in Trump's reelection. The stimulus is the only card he has left but it's a major one.

Give it a f****** rest, weirdo.

[Gass3268]

Senate has no appetite to give Trump a deal.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1314981025479569408?s=20

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

Senate has no appetite to give Trump a deal.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1314981025479569408?s=20

Nobody should be surprised.  If McConnell and the Senate (my band name) set a limit of one trillion for the HEROES Act, why would they approve a rushed bill that's almost twice that -- even if it is being pushed by Trump?

[Brandern]

Senate has no appetite to give Trump a deal.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1314981025479569408?s=20

GOP hates Americans loves billionaire donors. Great message to take into the presidential election.

These old albatrosses can't be gone soon enough.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Seems like the Senate is on the verge of open revolt against Trump. Frankly though, in this case they are weakening their own position in terms of holding the Senate by refusing to budge, but perhaps they have found a way to twist the knife in Trump while appearing to be "more conservative than him" and thus "safe to do so" in their eyes anyway.

[new_patomic]

There would be nothing stupider or misjudged than revolting over pandemic relief, and yet here we are

[Indy Texas 🇺🇦🇵🇸]

Seems like the Senate is on the verge of open revolt against Trump. Frankly though, in this case they are weakening their own position in terms of holding the Senate by refusing to budge, but perhaps they have found a way to twist the knife in Trump while appearing to be "more conservative than him" and thus "safe to do so" in their eyes anyway.

I think on some level they want to be the minority party again because that's all they really know how to do anymore and they've already confirmed like 30 years worth of federal judges so who cares.

[Non Swing Voter]

I think everyone should just completely ignore Trump and anything he does going forward.  He's likely to lose in 24 days.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Seems like the Senate is on the verge of open revolt against Trump. Frankly though, in this case they are weakening their own position in terms of holding the Senate by refusing to budge, but perhaps they have found a way to twist the knife in Trump while appearing to be "more conservative than him" and thus "safe to do so" in their eyes anyway.

I think on some level they want to be the minority party again because that's all they really know how to do anymore and they've already confirmed like 30 years worth of federal judges so who cares.

I think that is a big part of it. To be a Republican in governance is impossible because you got Grover Norquist, Wayne LaPierre and Tucker Carlson with a gun pointed at your head from three sides making it impossible to actually govern.

Its why they couldn't come up with an alternative to Obamacare because that alternative would basically have to be a combination of subsidies and market places, which at the basic level is 75% the same thing and they spent the last 10 years calling that socialism. So in the end they voted for skinny repeals with empty promises and that has exposed them to "VOTED 10 TIMES TO GUT PREXISTING CONDITION" attacks that are demolishing the Republican Senate candidates right now.

They also failed to do anything tangible on drug prices after campaigning on it 2016.

This is a pattern of over promising beyond what it is tangibly possible (within the confines allowed by this byzantine structure of grifting pressure groups), under-delivering because reality is harsh and then facing the wrath of disappointed voters who expected more.

The right is more concerned with exterminating traitors then actually governing, it didn't work for the Soviet Union and it is not going to work for the US right.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think everyone should just completely ignore Trump and anything he does going forward.  He's likely to lose in 24 days.

He has no leverage for that reason. Senators would be inclined to curry favor with a President likely to be reelected, but at this point they are basically operating as if it is a foregone conclusion that he will lose. They are also predicting that the issues defining the period afterwards will be dominated by a shift towards concern for the deficit.

That is also a factor that needs to be considered here. For those who are retiring it is about principle, but those who have to face the potential of the now standard base revolt that occurs in midterm of party out of power they are trying to avoid being deemed a big spender establishment type and thus get voted out by the next wave of revolutionaries pressed on to be the knifes at the backs of the incumbents to never waver, lest they be eliminated next, by the same said pressure groups.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Trump said there was gonna be a vaccine before election day, just like he lied about phases of reopenings colleges, bars, stadiums and libraries remain closed indefinitely

That's why his polls went backwards again, to Biden plus 10/15

[Devout Centrist]

The Dems should offer Trump a deal to get what he wants on a stimulus if he nominates a moderate justice for SCOTUS instead of ACB.

Lmao, no. If he gave them the pick, sure. Otherwise they shouldn't make a deal. Pelosi has all the leverage in the world here.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Senate has no appetite to give Trump a deal.

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1314981025479569408?s=20
 

Nobody should be surprised.  If McConnell and the Senate (my band name) set a limit of one trillion for the HEROES Act, why would they approve a rushed bill that's almost twice that -- even if it is being pushed by Trump?

Because it's being pushed by Trump and they might prioritise reelection over budget concerns.