Trump Has COVID megathread (update 10/24: 2 Pence staffers test positive)

[politics_king]

I'm starting to have a suspicion that he's really gravely ill. I'd be more than happy to be wrong and beat him at the ballot box, but something just doesn't feel right.

I get the feeling the he won't make it past the next 2-4 weeks.

Forget the next 48 hours. The next 3-5 days are gonna be absolutely critical

If Trump is still in the hospital by next week, I'd be very worried for his health. Boris Johnson was released from hospital after a week, while Herman Cain died a month after being hospitalized

It'll be completely shocking if it happens. Ideally people will take this disease more seriously after this whole fiasco.

[pbrower2a]

If it is something that can largely be taken care of with home recovery (someone will give injections, if necessary), then he will be released unless he should be proved unreliable in taking care of himself. The virus can overpower medical care, and he can of course get sicker while under medical custody.

It is possible that the next Presidential debate will be between Biden and Pence, especially if Trump should go on a respirator.

[roxas11]

Trump is already getting better he's sending Tweets out to pass stimulus and confirm Barrett, which are key for him to win reelection

I don't for 1 second believe that most Americans at this point are simply going to ignore the fact that over 200,000 people are dead from this virus and the President of united states not only failed to protect them from it He also failed to protect himself

It great news if Trump gets better and recovers from this but the realty is Trump needed this election to stay focused on the economy if wanted to have a shot at winning this. by Him getting the virus he all but guaranteed that the final month of this election will be all about Covid and that will not help him at all on election day

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

That feeling when Trump in his hospital video looks healthier and sprightlier than Joe Biden at any time this campaign

Why did Biden halt the negative attacks on these jerks again?

[NOVA Green]

That feeling when Trump in his hospital video looks healthier and sprightlier than Joe Biden at any time this campaign

Sir.... Redban, have you been consuming drugs, alcohol, etc tonight?

Many of us who not been part of the "hardcore Biden DEM base" seem to have a different opinion, regardless of which horse we supported in the 2020 DEM PRES PRIM....

Please Sir--- discuss with either maps or evidence to support your ludicrous statement just posted above....

Thanks! Looking forward to a real and detailed analysis on this topic!

[pbrower2a]

Theory:

The videos and photos released today were staged and taken back on Friday before he left for Walter Reed. The EXIF data on the photo released today was manually edited to make it appear that it's recent when it actually isn't.

I saw what looked like physicians standing outside the hospital on MSNBC. It is possible to get some random person off the street and put him in a doctor's smock (physicians are strong candidates for the worst-dressed of all professionals; they can get away with it because they are physicians)... and it will be convincing. Why would there be physicians outside the hospital standing in front of it? Real physicians would have better things to do with such a high-profile person being treated, wouldn't they?

[Yoda]

That feeling when Trump in his hospital video looks healthier and sprightlier than Joe Biden at any time this campaign

LOL yeh, especially when he hobbled down that ramp while holding the arm of the general, while Biden rode mountain bikes. trump is spry for sure pal

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

https://twitter.com/jordanzakarin/status/1312178204497506304?s=19

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1312590095703257088?s=20

At least give him a crossword or a sudoku or something.

I think Trump would have a hard time solving either one.

[Inmate Trump]

Can we focus less on an individual poster's personal politics and get back on topic?

[Torrain]

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312763676726886401

[Calthrina950]

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312763676726886401

I said the other night that it appears that Trump's condition is improving, but as you've noted, his case could regress at any time. That we have this level of uncertainty ought to be concerning by itself.

[Torrain]

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312763676726886401

I said the other night that it appears that Trump's condition is improving, but as you've noted, his case could regress at any time. That we have this level of uncertainty ought to be concerning by itself.

Aye, absolutely. This level of obfuscation is hugely counterproductive. It leaves the public uninformed and scared, but also reduces trust in the administration itself. Nobody wins.

[ProgressiveModerate]

https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1312763676726886401

I said the other night that it appears that Trump's condition is improving, but as you've noted, his case could regress at any time. That we have this level of uncertainty ought to be concerning by itself.

My guess is that he'll come out of it and act like nothing bad happened, when in reality, COVID gave him a scare

[GeorgiaModerate]

This is a great analogy:

https://twitter.com/POLITICO_Steve/status/1312742923369426947

[Holmes]

fwiw when my mother-in-law had it, she went from really bad and not being able to do anything one day to being much better and able to do things the next, and then right back to really bad symptoms again for a few days.

[pppolitics]

fwiw when my mother-in-law had it, she went from really bad and not being able to do anything one day to being much better and able to do things the next, and then right back to really bad symptoms again for a few days.

Really?

So if I am feeling better today, and I am due to give a Zoom presentation to my class in a couple of days, should I pre-record the presentation in case my condition regresses?

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1312551511201845249

This is a good observation.  Maybe being the "party of individual liberty" makes you opposed to collective solutions.  And if a problem is too big to be solved without collective actions, it therefore should be ignored?

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1312551511201845249
This is a good observation.  Maybe being the "party of individual liberty" makes you opposed to collective solutions.  And if a problem is too big to be solved without collective actions, it therefore should be ignored?

It's not that deep. If it was, they wouldn't be backing practically every police force to the hilt.

[Middle-aged Europe]

This is a great analogy:

https://twitter.com/POLITICO_Steve/status/1312742923369426947

Th logic of the fabled sympathy bump boils down to this:

Do I want Donald Trump to be president for the next four years because I feel sorry for him for being hospitalized right now?

[Inmate Trump]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1312551511201845249

This is a good observation.  Maybe being the "party of individual liberty" makes you opposed to collective solutions.  And if a problem is too big to be solved without collective actions, it therefore should be ignored?

This is why Republicans are the enemy of the people.

[BigSerg]

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1312783267871981568?s=20

[It’s so Joever]

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1312783267871981568?s=20

Excellent, that means no sympathy effect.

[ProudModerate2]

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1312590095703257088?s=20

At least give him a crossword or a sudoku or something.

Are you kidding?
He probably couldn't even solve a sudoku puzzle on easy.

[pppolitics]

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1312551511201845249

This is a good observation.  Maybe being the "party of individual liberty" makes you opposed to collective solutions.  And if a problem is too big to be solved without collective actions, it therefore should be ignored?

By the same reasoning, Ronald Reagan would have never received any sympathy after his shooting, as he supported the 2nd Amendment. Yet his approval rating shot up, including among liberals. Nobody said, “It’s Reagan’s own fault for not taking away all the guns!!”

No, it would be like Reagan going around everywhere yelling, "Shoot me! Shoot me!" and someone shot him.