Does philosophical determinism "matter"?
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« on: September 30, 2020, 02:10:58 PM »

Does taking up the belief that all things--including human actions--are, in effect, pre-determined yield any practical "insights" (whether true or simply logically resulting from the belief) into morality or public policy? I've never really thought so.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2020, 02:14:12 PM »

Nope! It's still true though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2020, 02:16:27 PM »


To be honest, this was mainly made in response to some remark of yours some months back. Glad we're on the same page!

As for its truth, I treat that as irrelevant, but don't blame me, that's just how I'm programmed.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2020, 02:19:22 PM »

@John Dule you should try to change this and found a Determinist Party.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2020, 02:24:27 PM »

It makes 2020 somewhat more bearable I suppose.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2020, 03:20:08 PM »

It matters if you let it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2020, 06:40:24 PM »

If people are automatons responding deterministically to inputs, getting them to do what you want should just be a matter of figuring out the right inputs. I think that supposition has wide-ranging applications.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2020, 01:45:47 AM »

It doesn't. Whether our actions are "predetermined" in an abstract sense (which, yes, they are) doesn't change the fact that they're not predetermined to ourselves, and this means that, for all relevant intents and purposes, we do have agency.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 02:25:01 AM »

If people are automatons responding deterministically to inputs, getting them to do what you want should just be a matter of figuring out the right inputs. I think that supposition has wide-ranging applications.

That is true for all natural systems. The problem, of course, is that we're not capable of calculating those inputs (yet).
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