Will the entire east coast of the United States be red?

[ajc0918]

With recent polls showing a close race between Trump and Biden in South Carolina along with marginal leads in Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida, will the entire eastern seaboard go Atlas red in the near future?

South Carolina would probably be the last hold out. Thoughts?

[Roll Roons]

Maybe only in a Dem landslide. Even if Georgia becomes the new Virginia, I expect Florida and North Carolina to remain perennial swing states. And this is not discounting the possibility of other Northeastern states trending right this decade.

[MATTROSE94]

All except Florida.

[Hope For A New Era]

Maybe. South Carolina would be the Indiana 2008 here.

Now that I mention that...I've just realized that 2008 is the only time that the "north coast" (Great Lakes) has ever been all-D (aside from Roosevelt and Johnson's blowouts).

[Ferguson97]

All except Florida.

You think Biden wins South Carolina but not Florida?

[Catalyst138]

All except Florida.

You think Biden wins South Carolina but not Florida?

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All except Florida.

You think Biden wins South Carolina but not Florida?

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[MATTROSE94]

All except Florida.

You think Biden wins South Carolina but not Florida?

As of right now, yes. Joe Biden I feel will pull an upset in South Carolina, but narrowly lose Florida due to Cuban and Venezuelan voters who have by and large bought into President Donald Trumps ridiculous argument that Joe Biden plans to turn the US a socialist or communist country.

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All except Florida.

You think Biden wins South Carolina but not Florida?

As of right now, yes. Joe Biden I feel will pull an upset in South Carolina, but narrowly lose Florida due to Cuban and Venezuelan voters who have by and large bought into President Donald Trumps ridiculous argument that Joe Biden plans to turn the US a socialist or communist country.

If you think Biden will win SC but not FL, then you are the one who is buying into ridiculous arguments.

[Blackacre]

It's possible in a landslide scenario, with SC as the last one to fall. Short of that, though, nah.

[ottermax]

To bring up an analogy that isn't perfect...

The West Coast had nearly every county vote Democratic in 2008... except Orange County and a couple others.

Finally in 2016, Orange County flips, but so did several Pacific Northwest counties...

So my theory is that once the Democratic Party is a good enough fit for South Carolina, it won't be a good fit for a state like Rhode Island, Maine, or New Hampshire.

[pbrower2a]

A Trump collapse makes South Carolina an easily-imaginable win for Biden.

I can think of no election in which any President won the entire I-95 corridor as it is today. FDR lost Maine, but won everything else from New Hampshire south in 1936. Reagan just missed basically a bridge crossing the Potomac River and just barely entering Dee Cee on the Capital Beltway in 1984. Nixon got neither that nor Massachusetts in 1972.

Biden would need about 422 electoral votes to do it, as he wins Texas before he wins South Carolina.

[King of Kensington]

Wasn't even close in South Carolina, and Florida moved to the right.

[Kuumo]

Sigh. Looks like Atlas fell into the battleground South Carolina trap again. I remember seeing threads like this in 2016 too. South Carolina seems to be one of those states that Atlas Democrats have a weird obsession with winning despite it being very Republican. The only states Atlas is even more obsessed with are Iowa, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

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Kind of hard to do that when you win Miami by only 9 points.

[King of Kensington]

Sigh. Looks like Atlas fell into the battleground South Carolina trap again. I remember seeing threads like this in 2016 too. South Carolina seems to be one of those states that Atlas Democrats have a weird obsession with winning despite it being very Republican. The only states Atlas is even more obsessed with are Iowa, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

I think a lot of people just like the idea of an east coast sweep because it looks cool on a map or something. Kinda like the bizarre idea of Illinois voting Republican some day (Midwest sweep!)

I don't think I'll live to see the day IL votes to the right of SC though.

[Catalyst138]

Sigh. Looks like Atlas fell into the battleground South Carolina trap again. I remember seeing threads like this in 2016 too. South Carolina seems to be one of those states that Atlas Democrats have a weird obsession with winning despite it being very Republican. The only states Atlas is even more obsessed with are Iowa, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

To be fair most people were saying it was a long shot.

[King of Kensington]

South Carolina is not Texas.

[Figueira]

Sigh. Looks like Atlas fell into the battleground South Carolina trap again. I remember seeing threads like this in 2016 too. South Carolina seems to be one of those states that Atlas Democrats have a weird obsession with winning despite it being very Republican. The only states Atlas is even more obsessed with are Iowa, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

Eh, this time there some good polls there at least. It was pretty clear by the end that it wasn't likely to happen though.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

If the Democrats nominate a very popular moderate black candidate, like an Obama 2.0? Sort of like 2008 but with accelerated suburban trends so SC flips.

[pbrower2a]

Unless South Carolina follows the same recent trend as Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia only in a D blowout win of the Presidency.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

If the Democrats nominate a very popular moderate black candidate, like an Obama 2.0? Sort of like 2008 but with accelerated suburban trends so SC flips.

I mean, that was Jaime Harrison and he was running against utterly toxic Lindsey Graham and it still wasn't enough. SC won't flip unless its demographics flip.

[Alben Barkley]

Sigh. Looks like Atlas fell into the battleground South Carolina trap again. I remember seeing threads like this in 2016 too. South Carolina seems to be one of those states that Atlas Democrats have a weird obsession with winning despite it being very Republican. The only states Atlas is even more obsessed with are Iowa, Wyoming, and West Virginia.

I think a lot of people just like the idea of an east coast sweep because it looks cool on a map or something. Kinda like the bizarre idea of Illinois voting Republican some day (Midwest sweep!)

I don't think I'll live to see the day IL votes to the right of SC though.

This map would be beautiful:

As would this map:

[King of Kensington]

If that happened would VA/NC/SC/GA/FL "no longer be Southern"? lol