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Question: Regardless if you believe that Roe v Wade is legally sound/dubious, do you support pro-life or pro-choice public policies?
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« on: September 26, 2020, 08:31:16 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2020, 09:55:04 PM »

Personally pro-life, politically pro-choice. Used to be the opposite.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2020, 09:56:45 PM »

Personally pro-life, politically pro-choice. Used to be the opposite.

Could you expand on your rationale when you were opposite?
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2020, 09:59:29 PM »

I've always been conflicted on abortion. On the one hand, I support it because it's killing babies. On the other, I oppose it because it's giving women a choice.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2020, 10:07:36 PM »
« Edited: September 26, 2020, 10:48:36 PM by lfromnj »

Personally pro-life, politically pro-choice. Used to be the opposite.

Could you expand on your rationale when you were opposite?

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2020, 10:21:50 PM »

Personally pro-life, politically pro-choice. Used to be the opposite.

Could you expand on your rationale when you were opposite?

I consider elective abortions to be a lifestyle choice, not healthcare, so the state has the right to ban them. I thought it was better to err on the side of caution on the morality. I evolved to be politically pro-choice for purely pragmatic reasons - abortions will happen anyway, so it is better for them to be conducted in a safe manner and leave the moral dilemma to the individual.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2020, 10:27:30 PM »

We've got no proof souls exist and fetuses aren't human, therefore "pro-life" is a false dichotomy.

There is no non-religious justification for banning abortion.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2020, 10:29:16 PM »

Pro-Life. Abortion is a horrid practice.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2020, 10:32:42 PM »

So how do you feel about the fact that most Democrats are pro-choice? Do you overlook abortion when it comes to voting?
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2020, 10:32:50 PM »

We've got no proof souls exist and fetuses aren't human, therefore "pro-life" is a false dichotomy.

There is no non-religious justification for banning abortion.
After a certain point, the only difference between a fetus and a baby is that one is inside the mother's body and the other is outside, so this is a ridiculous thing to say.
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2020, 10:32:53 PM »

There is no fundamental human right more critical than near-ultimate control over one's own body. If the state can make decisions like that for you, freedom becomes meaningless.

(Also, fetuses aren't people and banning abortions is pragmatically futile.)

TL;DR: I'm about as pro-choice as a person can be.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2020, 10:35:03 PM »

100% pro-choice.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2020, 10:35:33 PM »

So how do you feel about the fact that most Democrats are pro-choice? Do you overlook abortion when it comes to voting?

It’s something that’s I’m not a fan of and bothers me, but I tolerate. I agree with the Democrats on way more issues than Republicans, it’s certainly not a dealbreaker.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2020, 10:52:58 PM »

When forced to choose between these binary terms, I'm pro-choice
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2020, 10:55:50 PM »

I consider myself pro-choice politically. Abortion should be legal up to 24 weeks, and after that, only legal if medically necessary. I have no beliefs regarding the morality of abortion since I would never be in a position to make that decision.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2020, 12:44:27 AM »

We've got no proof souls exist and fetuses aren't human, therefore "pro-life" is a false dichotomy.

There is no non-religious justification for banning abortion.
After a certain point, the only difference between a fetus and a baby is that one is inside the mother's body and the other is outside, so this is a ridiculous thing to say.

Your "at a certain point" is the key phrase. And frankly, I just don't care. Certainly not in America that charges thousands for a birth. Republicans don't care about "life". They care about medical profits, and about having a wedge issue to get impoverished southern rubes to stay on the Republican plantation.

That's why it would actually be a bad idea politically for them to repeal. They won't have the stupid March for Life anymore and they won't be able to fundraise off women's private medical lives anymore.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2020, 01:14:16 AM »

I personally wouldn’t encourage anyone to get an abortion, unless it is for lifesaving purposes.

However, it should not be up to the government to decide whether to abort or not - it should be up to medical professionals and the patients. A much more effective way to reduce abortions without outlawing them would be to provide monetary incentives for women to carry their babies to term.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2020, 01:21:48 AM »

I personally wouldn’t encourage anyone to get an abortion, unless it is for lifesaving purposes.

However, it should not be up to the government to decide whether to abort or not - it should be up to medical professionals and the patients. A much more effective way to reduce abortions without outlawing them would be to provide monetary incentives for women to carry their babies to term.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2020, 03:40:44 AM »

It doesn't matter to me anymore, if a female or male doesn't use protection, then they should have the baby and give it up for adoption. This is the 21st century, where condoms and birth control pills are accessible
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2020, 04:04:01 AM »

A much more effective way to reduce abortions without outlawing them would be to provide monetary incentives for women to carry their babies to term.
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2020, 04:57:10 AM »

When forced to choose between these binary terms, I'm pro-choice

Basically this.

To clarify a bit I am in favour of keeping our current abortion laws from 2010: Legal on demand on the first 14 weeks

Only reform I can think of is maybe to allow it for 16 and 17 year olds without parental consent. But that is very very low on my list of priorities.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2020, 06:05:26 AM »

I've always been conflicted on abortion. On the one hand, I support it because it's killing babies. On the other, I oppose it because it's giving women a choice.

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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2020, 06:08:12 AM »

I've always been conflicted on abortion. On the one hand, I support it because it's killing babies. On the other, I oppose it because it's giving women a choice.

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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2020, 07:08:12 AM »

I've always been conflicted on abortion. On the one hand, I support it because it's killing babies. On the other, I oppose it because it's giving women a choice.

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paging Dule for your obvious plagiarism of his October 2019 Atlasian Presidential run

Did Dule beat me to the punch on this one? Guess I can't say I'm surprised, the man knows his way around an edgy joke or two

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I am conflicted on abortion. On the one hand, I support it because it kills babies; on the other hand, it gives women a choice.
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2020, 09:14:19 AM »

When forced to choose between these binary terms, I'm pro-choice

Basically this.  I’m pro-choice but often find myself more horrified by some pro-choicers’ brazenness and rhetoric regarding the issue than anything I see on the pro-life side ... see Corbynite and Blairite.
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