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« on: September 26, 2020, 07:31:07 PM »
« edited: September 26, 2020, 08:02:56 PM by The scissors of false economy »

The "anticanon" in US constitutional jurisprudence is a small body of SCOTUS cases that are almost universally regarded to have been disastrous decisions and that no judge today in their right mind at any level would dare to cite in a positive context. Traditionally there are understood to be four cases in it, three that had nakedly racist results and one that had a nakedly plutocratic result: Dred Scott v. Sandford, Plessy v. Ferguson, Lochner v. New York, and Korematsu v. United States. In order, these were the 1857 case that invalidated almost all efforts by free state governments or by Congress to protect fugitive slaves and free blacks prior to the Civil War; the 1896 case that ruled that "separate but equal" public accommodations for blacks and whites were constitutional; the 1905 case that ruled that attempts to regulate business practices and working conditions were substantive due process violations; and the 1944 case that ruled that Japanese internment was constitutional. There are a few other cases from the early twentieth century that are what might be called "deuteroanticanonical", like Lum v. Rice (a 1927 case that upheld Plessy and applied it to Asian-Americans for good measure) and Buck v. Bell (also 1927, a case that ruled that forced sterilization of the "unfit" was constitutional; you might think that Roe v. Wade overruled this, but no, Harry f**king Blackmun, megabrained intellectual that he was, specifically avoided doing so in the Roe decision).

I was reminded of the anticanon by Scott's recent FC thread asking us who, between three infamous banned Atlas posters, we'd most like to share a quarantine house with, if we absolutely had to choose. These posters were Eharding, Einzige, and Libertas: all violent racists who were psychologically abusive to other posters and made the forum community an all-around worse and coarser place. These seem pretty widely agreed to be the three worst posters of all time. Eharding and Einzige are banned from both Talk Elections and the much more laxly moderated spinoff forum Atlas After Dark; Libertas is banned from Talk Elections and left AAD of his own accord.

Are there any other posters who are "anticanonical" in their influence on this forum's standards, history, and overall site culture? Yates, for instance, who tricked the forum into believing that he was dying of cancer for reasons best known to himself? Matthew, a blue avatar in good standing until he volunteered the information that he had a five-digit post count on Stormfront? Hamilton, who once had a reputation similar to that of Eharding et al. but then managed to evade detection for years as a much more bearable and respected sock called Napoleon before being banned again?

I open the floor to discussion. Please only mention uncontroversially permabanned posters.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2020, 12:54:18 AM »

Hamilton, who once had a reputation similar to that of Eharding et al. but then managed to evade detection for years as a much more bearable and respected sock called Napoleon before being banned again?

A rather wild development in the history of the forum and its para-communities is that he's once again openly himself and a member in good standing on AAD. The same is true of Mondale. The ironic thing about AAD is that, despite its sewer reputation, many of the old trolls have reformed themselves. Vosem is probably more of a troll than they are there at this point.

I seem to remember an extremely persistent German poster who made a lot of socks and was prone to make unbalanced threats--forget the name though.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2020, 02:21:12 PM »

I seem to remember an extremely persistent German poster who made a lot of socks and was prone to make unbalanced threats--forget the name though.

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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2020, 02:26:28 PM »

Also, Matthew in Atlasia was Matthew “trumpsucks” before revealing his true self.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2020, 02:51:23 PM »

Hamilton, who once had a reputation similar to that of Eharding et al. but then managed to evade detection for years as a much more bearable and respected sock called Napoleon before being banned again?

A rather wild development in the history of the forum and its para-communities is that he's once again openly himself and a member in good standing on AAD. The same is true of Mondale. The ironic thing about AAD is that, despite its sewer reputation, many of the old trolls have reformed themselves. Vosem is probably more of a troll than they are there at this point.

I seem to remember an extremely persistent German poster who made a lot of socks and was prone to make unbalanced threats--forget the name though.

Snowstalker is a good example of those former trolls that have since bettered themselves. Of course, he got himself banned from this forum on purpose, so I'm not sure if he counts.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2020, 02:56:02 PM »

Oh, and I'd add Cora to the list: a proud antisemite who wished for the bombing of a bus of Israeli school children just to send a message. Came back as a sock, called lfromnj a "curry c#nt", and was promptly banned.

I wish I could add TNF to this list given his glorification of politically motivated violence and celebration of communist dictators, but he a) wasn't banned and b) there are a few posters who actually think he was a swell guy.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2020, 04:20:17 PM »

I nominate my old nemesis, Famous Mortimer.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2020, 05:20:29 PM »

Another infamous German poster: Klartext, whom the mods discovered is a real-life member of a white nationalist group in Germany.

singletxguyforfun was permabanned for trolling and sending me physical threats, but he was more amusing than offensive.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2020, 05:49:46 PM »

pjones/EnglishPete was another fascist troll that lasted for way too long before being banned.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2020, 05:50:48 PM »

I mean. What do you all want to know?
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2020, 05:51:33 PM »

singletxguyforfun was permabanned for trolling and sending me physical threats, but he was more amusing than offensive.
I almost forgot about that guy. Hilarious.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2020, 06:08:21 PM »

Hamilton, who once had a reputation similar to that of Eharding et al. but then managed to evade detection for years as a much more bearable and respected sock called Napoleon before being banned again?

A rather wild development in the history of the forum and its para-communities is that he's once again openly himself and a member in good standing on AAD. The same is true of Mondale. The ironic thing about AAD is that, despite its sewer reputation, many of the old trolls have reformed themselves. Vosem is probably more of a troll than they are there at this point.

I seem to remember an extremely persistent German poster who made a lot of socks and was prone to make unbalanced threats--forget the name though.

Snowstalker is a good example of those former trolls that have since bettered themselves. Of course, he got himself banned from this forum on purpose, so I'm not sure if he counts.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2020, 06:09:09 PM »

anyway I'll nominate Robert Stark and Texarkana.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2020, 06:10:48 PM »

One of these who probably almost no one remembers is CitizenX from circa 2010ish.

HoffmanJohn from the same era is no doubt a slightly better remembered example.
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2020, 08:30:46 PM »


Texarkana was the one who had similar...issues to Einzige in terms of respect for sexual consent laws, right?
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2020, 08:41:57 PM »

I was reading some old threads and saw that, not only did Hamilton have many socks, he also seems to have been thought to be behind several other troll accounts which wasn't proven. He must have had a really big impact on this forum!
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2020, 08:45:10 PM »

Are there any banned posters who are not in some sense controversial?

Personally, I was sorry to see GIA go, but unfortunately and unfairly he was certainly not uncontroversial, due to atlas groupthink.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2020, 08:49:53 PM »

Are there any banned posters who are not in some sense controversial?

Personally, I was sorry to see GIA go, but unfortunately and unfairly he was certainly not uncontroversial, due to atlas groupthink.

Groupthink would imply a lack of controversy, not its presence.

Regardless, GIA was not an "anticanonical" poster because he had a negligible impact on the forum outside R&P. If he had spammed one or more of the "big" boards (US General, Individual Politics, the Presidential election du jour, etc.) and had had the same posting style that he had on R&P then, yeah, he might count.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2020, 08:53:23 PM »


Texarkana was the one who had similar...issues to Einzige in terms of respect for sexual consent laws, right?

Actually he was if anything even worse, seeing as how he openly called for legalization of child pornography and then decided to combat accusations he was a pedophile by spamming pics of curvy porn star all over the forum as "proof" he was only into developed women.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2020, 09:03:15 PM »

What do y'all mean by GIA?
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2020, 09:05:11 PM »

If being so widely reviled you get banned from Atlas and AAD is a qualification, then jmfcst should be on the list, though I think he's someone who got worse with time; before around the turn of the decade I think he was a poster in good standing.

Delighted to see myself declared a troll in the second post.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2020, 09:17:03 PM »


Texarkana was the one who had similar...issues to Einzige in terms of respect for sexual consent laws, right?

Actually he was if anything even worse, seeing as how he openly called for legalization of child pornography and then decided to combat accusations he was a pedophile by spamming pics of curvy porn star all over the forum as "proof" he was only into developed women.

Yeesh. Was this during my extended hiatus in 2017-2018?

If being so widely reviled you get banned from Atlas and AAD is a qualification, then jmfcst should be on the list, though I think he's someone who got worse with time; before around the turn of the decade I think he was a poster in good standing.

Delighted to see myself declared a troll in the second post.

I don't really remember what was so wrong with jmfcst that isn't wrong with other mildly-trollish socon posters like, say, Fuzzy (whom I have my share of issues with but who I would never claim belongs anywhere near this category). Was it just that he developed a very aggressive posting style as time went on?
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2020, 09:20:26 PM »

I was reading some old threads and saw that, not only did Hamilton have many socks, he also seems to have been thought to be behind several other troll accounts which wasn't proven. He must have had a really big impact on this forum!
One time in Atlasia Hamilton "debated" his socks
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« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2020, 09:20:48 PM »

I don't really remember what was so wrong with jmfcst that isn't wrong with other mildly-trollish socon posters like, say, Fuzzy (whom I have my share of issues with but who I would never claim belongs anywhere near this category). Was it just that he developed a very aggressive posting style as time went on?
He was much more trollish than Fuzzy and much more inclined towards personal insults, and during the infraction points system used to deliberately manage his number of points to remain just under the allowed number so as not to be banned. On AAD he was especially aggressive towards female posters, in a very weird way.
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« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2020, 09:22:14 PM »


Texarkana was the one who had similar...issues to Einzige in terms of respect for sexual consent laws, right?

Actually he was if anything even worse, seeing as how he openly called for legalization of child pornography and then decided to combat accusations he was a pedophile by spamming pics of curvy porn star all over the forum as "proof" he was only into developed women.

Yeesh. Was this during my extended hiatus in 2017-2018?

Sounds about right, I remember Virginia announcing he had already posted over 120 times in 2018...on January 2. Mostly just empty quotes or one word posts, each one with a large pic of said porn star attached in his sig.
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