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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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« on: September 23, 2020, 02:39:11 PM »

When can we finally put the rest the "don't overreact to one poll" bromide with respect to Florida?
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 02:44:20 PM »

When can we finally put the rest the "don't overreact to one poll" bromide with respect to Florida?

I think it’s pretty safe to say Florida will be close. Pretty much always is, isn’t it? I could see a situation in which Biden won it by more than usual due to his gains with seniors, but maybe not.

Still expect Biden to win AZ by a few points though.

Florida is always close when the national vote is close.  
But the national vote isn't close right now.  Florida should not be a toss-up when Biden is winning the country by ~8 points.

People need to start acknowledging that Biden's messaging specifically to Florida, and especially Florida Latinos, has been pretty bad.
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2020, 02:51:38 PM »


How is it any worse than Trump? Trump continues to downplay the threat of COVID, repeatedly insults Puerto Rico, and has separated Latin American children from their parents in a measure so draconian it will be right up there with the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II as a modern day egregious violation of human rights.

Right, Trump's treatment of Latinos has been historically abominable.  The fact that even 10% of the are voting for him suggests that Biden is also doing something wrong.
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2020, 02:55:14 PM »


Florida is always close, period.

See 2018

Florida was only close in 2018 because Nelson also couldn't get out of bed to appeal to Latinos in the state.  If he has made the slightest effort here, Dem chances of retaking the Senate would be an order of magnitude better.

Biden looks like he is repeating the same mistake.
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Fmr. Gov. NickG
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,200


Political Matrix
E: -8.00, S: -3.49

« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2020, 02:57:51 PM »


How is it any worse than Trump? Trump continues to downplay the threat of COVID, repeatedly insults Puerto Rico, and has separated Latin American children from their parents in a measure so draconian it will be right up there with the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II as a modern day egregious violation of human rights.

Right, Trump's treatment of Latinos has been historically abominable.  The fact that even 10% of the are voting for him suggests that Biden is also doing something wrong.

I chalk it up to 'muh both sides'.

I'm not arguing that Latinos should vote for Trump.  No one should vote for Trump!
But it's apparent that despite everything Trump has done, a lot of Latinos still are voting for Trump.

And we shouldn't ignore what the polls are telling is just because we don't want it to be true.  We (i.e. the Democrats) should be doing something about it.
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