Trump planning a Coup if he loses Election

[Nyvin]

Not exaggerating

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1308755749435211779

This would literally be turning the United States into an authoritarian state.   It would be the literal end of Democracy.

[7,052,770]

There is no overlap between people who support Trump and people who love America. None.

[emailking]

Well they'd need to put up a majority vote in the state legislature to do this, which seems kind of unlikely unless the result truly is murky. If there's another <1000 vote margin like FL '00 this could be on the table, but I don't think he could pull this off in multiple states to overturn the election.

[acbtrain]

Of course, if the media is reporting it, it must be true. Just like "hands up, don't shoot".

[Joe Biden 2024]

I can't wait to see how the deplorables excuse this.

[Beet]

If liberals had spent half as much time trying to actually win the election as they did making up stuff about what Trump would do if he lost, they might have beaten him.

[7,052,770]

If liberals had spent half as much time trying to actually win the election as they did making up stuff about what Trump would do if he lost, they might have beaten him.

What are you talking about? Who isn't trying to win here? Knowing what Republicans are talking about doing in the aftermath of a loss doesn't preclude all of the strategies Biden is employing to win in November, win in December, and be inaugurated in January (thanks to Trump, those are now 3 different battles).

[Hindsight was 2020]

If liberals had spent half as much time trying to actually win the election as they did making up stuff about what Trump would do if he lost, they might have beaten him.

The campaign admits to it in the article

[redjohn]

Not at all surprised. As I've said all along, Trump is a literal fascist. It's not an exaggeration. He is the single most dangerous figure to America in a generation, and that is also not at all an exaggeration. If he wins re-election, the America we know will be completely lost by the time his second term is finished. We have a super-villain as President of the United States and 45%+ of voters will vote for him anyways. Lust for authoritarianism is no different here than it has been in Germany, in China, or anywhere else.

[pbrower2a]

Not exaggerating

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1308755749435211779

This would literally be turning the United States into an authoritarian state.   It would be the literal end of Democracy.

This is why Democrats need to contest every state in which they can win the state's electoral vote.

There could be ugly contests between lame-duck state legislatures and State governors.

Changing the rules after one lost by the old rules so that one wins has no legitimacy in any sport or game. Convicted criminals do not get off because they dispute the validity of a law upon which they are convicted.

I expect Congress to certify electors in accordance with the practice in place now. State governors and legislatures cannot change the rules by which electors are chosen, and a certificate of the vote (the popular vote in each state and the District of Columbia, and the district votes in two districts in Maine and of the three district votes in Nebraska. Alternatives, including a disqualification of votes for Joe Biden for no other reason than that all such votes are invalid will be rejected.

It is best that Joe Biden win in a landslide so that no such shenanigans have a chance -- that even if someone succeeds in one state, then such will be such a pointless exercise as to be an object of mockery.    

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

If liberals had spent half as much time trying to actually win the election as they did making up stuff about what Trump would do if he lost, they might have beaten him.

You're lying. You know you're lying and you're still telling lies. What do you actually believe?

[Beet]

If liberals had spent half as much time trying to actually win the election as they did making up stuff about what Trump would do if he lost, they might have beaten him.

What are you talking about? Who isn't trying to win here? Knowing what Republicans are talking about doing in the aftermath of a loss doesn't preclude all of the strategies Biden is employing to win in November, win in December, and be inaugurated in January (thanks to Trump, those are now 3 different battles).

These highly melodramatic media claims are tiresome.

In 2016 the WaPo ran with huge black headline letters, 'Trump refuses to say if he would accept defeat.' The media asked him if he would concede during the debate, he didn't word the answer exactly as they expected. Meanwhile they never asked the same question of Clinton. Double standard. I was a big Clinton supporter but even I found it annoying. Why not ask the same question to both candidates?

Turns out Clinton is the one who lost.

Trump has been in politics for 5 years now and has never overturned the result of an election.

If the GOP wanted to they could have refused to seat Andy Beshear.

Bottom line, the media has lost all credibility and this story is really irrelevant right now since the election hasn't happened yet. If you ask me the Democrats are less likely to concede defeat than Trump, since they have a lot more to lose.

[Wakie77]

Let's stop for a moment and agree to a few things in principle.

1- If the voters in a state elect a candidate and the reps from that state decide to select the OTHER candidate this is nothing short of a subversion of the voters and of Democracy.

2- Most Americans would be opposed to something like this happening.

3- The current Republican leadership would definitely considering doing this in order to stay in power.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Let's stop for a moment and agree to a few things in principle.

1- If the voters in a state elect a candidate and the reps from that state decide to select the OTHER candidate this is nothing short of a subversion of the voters and of Democracy.

2- Most Americans would be opposed to something like this happening.

3- The current Republican leadership would definitely considering doing this in order to stay in power.

1 and 2 are obviously true.  3 is too much of a blanket statement.  While I don't doubt some of them would consider it, it's by no means all of even most of them.

[Wakie77]

Let's stop for a moment and agree to a few things in principle.

1- If the voters in a state elect a candidate and the reps from that state decide to select the OTHER candidate this is nothing short of a subversion of the voters and of Democracy.

2- Most Americans would be opposed to something like this happening.

3- The current Republican leadership would definitely considering doing this in order to stay in power.

1 and 2 are obviously true.  3 is too much of a blanket statement.  While I don't doubt some of them would consider it, it's by no means all of even most of them.

I agree that some of them would be opposed (Collins, Romney, etc) but the majority of Republicans would fall in line and repeat the Trump Line.

[beaver2.0]

It sounds like this is legal, but of course that doesn't mean it should be done.  We've voted for electors for years and a sudden change like this is ridiculous.

[acbtrain]

If liberals had spent half as much time trying to actually win the election as they did making up stuff about what Trump would do if he lost, they might have beaten him.

What are you talking about? Who isn't trying to win here? Knowing what Republicans are talking about doing in the aftermath of a loss doesn't preclude all of the strategies Biden is employing to win in November, win in December, and be inaugurated in January (thanks to Trump, those are now 3 different battles).

These highly melodramatic media claims are tiresome.

In 2016 the WaPo ran with huge black headline letters, 'Trump refuses to say if he would accept defeat.' The media asked him if he would concede during the debate, he didn't word the answer exactly as they expected. Meanwhile they never asked the same question of Clinton. Double standard. I was a big Clinton supporter but even I found it annoying. Why not ask the same question to both candidates?

Turns out Clinton is the one who lost.

Trump has been in politics for 5 years now and has never overturned the result of an election.

If the GOP wanted to they could have refused to seat Andy Beshear.

Bottom line, the media has lost all credibility and this story is really irrelevant right now since the election hasn't happened yet. If you ask me the Democrats are less likely to concede defeat than Trump, since they have a lot more to lose.

Not only that, it was Clinton who refused to concede hours after everyone knew she was going to lose. And then, she was the one who has continued to blame everyone but herself  for her loss.

[freepcrusher]

I don't want to start a new thread but I feel we need someone like Obama as an emotional support animal. Tell us about how there's a plan (a la qanon) to make the bad guys go away. He's like our leader in exile.

[T'Chenka]

* pretends to be shocked * dot gif

[Brittain33]

Democrats started it by rejecting Bork.

[Wakie77]

Democrats started it by rejecting Bork.

Bork got a hearing.

[emailking]

Not only that, it was Clinton who refused to concede hours after everyone knew she was going to lose. And then, she was the one who has continued to blame everyone but herself  for her loss.

She conceded to Trump over the phone shortly after some networks had called the race (and before several had). She just needed time to craft an appropriate concession speech (yes this should have been done already).

[Alben Barkley]

This is, no joke, one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read.

This would be declaring war on democracy and the American people. It is that bad.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This is, no joke, one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever read.

This would be declaring war on democracy and the American people. It is that bad.

The GOP did both of those years ago. We just haven't been willing to admit it to ourselves, because the reality was too unpleasant. And because we didn't, now it's going to be even worse, even if we "win".

[brucejoel99]

What in the actual f**k!?