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« on: October 10, 2020, 05:45:33 PM »

Donald Trump is an abject outsider.  He has challenged more than the agendas and assumptions of the political establishment; his very manner in appearance, speech and governing is an affront to the Washington political class and media, their norms and euphemisms (which is why they despise rather than simply oppose him.)    

Trump has the instincts to see the wisdom of not writing off the interior of the country as an aging and irredeemable "basket of deplorables."  Despair in America's Heartland has proven the need to question the previously unquestionable tenets of a global, liberal order that only serves to enrich cities and the elites who live there.  Trump is the only candidate campaigning to break American out of the globalist doldrums and transform our national spirit; his opponents only offer misplaced nostalgia for the very past that precipitated the necessity of Trump's politics - there is no transformation, no message, no relief in what they offer to America.

Who do you think the 2017 tax cuts mostly benefited?

Donald Trump can say he hates "the elites" but he keeps rewarding them with massive tax cuts.

Trump's tax changes really benefited pass-through entities and small businesses.

He severely limited the SALT and other deductions aimed at high income earners in in high-tax states.


I dont think you should vote for Trump, but here are two major reasons to vote for a Republican senate:


1. To Stop the Democrats from packing the court and destroying a core part of our republic forever

2. So we can keep the 2017 Tax Reform which really did help the economy(there is a reason the economy is an issue Trump still gets high marks on and that is thanks to the 2017 tax reform Bill).







Okay, this talking point needs to end. The 2017 tax cuts literally only helped you if you're super rich and you live in a red state. If you don't make much then you didn't get much benefit, and if you live in a blue state, your taxes went up. It's literally a give away to flyover country like KY and WV, why should blue states be bailing out these failed states?


Trump is taking action against the Antifa domestic terrorists.

"Vote for Trump because he’s going to deal with all of the things that got worse during the years he was President!"

One hell of a reelection pitch you've got there. Stick with trade and the SALT deduction.

Yes, because forcing consumers to pay more for goods, because we're scared of imports, is such a good policy...
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S019
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2020, 05:52:13 PM »

Donald Trump is an abject outsider.  He has challenged more than the agendas and assumptions of the political establishment; his very manner in appearance, speech and governing is an affront to the Washington political class and media, their norms and euphemisms (which is why they despise rather than simply oppose him.)    

Trump has the instincts to see the wisdom of not writing off the interior of the country as an aging and irredeemable "basket of deplorables."  Despair in America's Heartland has proven the need to question the previously unquestionable tenets of a global, liberal order that only serves to enrich cities and the elites who live there.  Trump is the only candidate campaigning to break American out of the globalist doldrums and transform our national spirit; his opponents only offer misplaced nostalgia for the very past that precipitated the necessity of Trump's politics - there is no transformation, no message, no relief in what they offer to America.

Who do you think the 2017 tax cuts mostly benefited?

Donald Trump can say he hates "the elites" but he keeps rewarding them with massive tax cuts.

Trump's tax changes really benefited pass-through entities and small businesses.

He severely limited the SALT and other deductions aimed at high income earners in in high-tax states.


I dont think you should vote for Trump, but here are two major reasons to vote for a Republican senate:


1. To Stop the Democrats from packing the court and destroying a core part of our republic forever

2. So we can keep the 2017 Tax Reform which really did help the economy(there is a reason the economy is an issue Trump still gets high marks on and that is thanks to the 2017 tax reform Bill).







Okay, this talking point needs to end. The 2017 tax cuts literally only helped you if you're super rich and you live in a red state. If you don't make much then you didn't get much benefit, and if you live in a blue state, your taxes went up. It's literally a give away to flyover country like KY and WV, why should blue states be bailing out these failed states?


Trump is taking action against the Antifa domestic terrorists.

"Vote for Trump because he’s going to deal with all of the things that got worse during the years he was President!"

One hell of a reelection pitch you've got there. Stick with trade and the SALT deduction.

Yes, because forcing consumers to pay more for goods, because we're scared of imports, is such a good policy...

No those state governments are the ones raising your taxes and here's a deal I will make to restore SALT.


We will restore SALT Only if states are required to let you deduct federal taxes


This still doesn't explain why flyover country WWC people deserve a tax cut.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 06:03:18 PM »

If you're going to dismiss them as undeserving "flyover" people, then there's no need for or possibility of argument. It's purely a question of interests. You believe that theirs should be crushed.

It should not surprise you that the feeling is mutual, nor should you be surprised in the future when it becomes clear that this divide is bigger, more important, and much scarier than if it were merely about a Cheeto in the White House , or whether the Democratic tax regime written to advantage the blue state rich is better than a Republican tax regime written to benefit the red state rich.


I mean of course, I would support my own interests. Quite frankly, I also never get this sympathy for these rural racists in Appalachia, I never understood why we must pander to them? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think I am.
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