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« on: September 22, 2020, 02:33:33 AM »

Why would you say this in Minnesota? People there don't give a crap about Confederate statues.

Northern states are full of hicks who proudly display Confederate flags despite their own ancestors were shot by people brandishing those flags.  Trump rallies are where you are as bound to find those morons as anywhere.

Wrong.

You can't just say something's wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. I can tell you there are tons of Confederate flags in rural PA, MD, NJ and upstate NY. Nowadays they're more likely to be accompanied by the blue lives matter and the no steppy on snek, but they haven't gone away.
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2020, 10:16:23 AM »

Why would you say this in Minnesota? People there don't give a crap about Confederate statues.

Northern states are full of hicks who proudly display Confederate flags despite their own ancestors were shot by people brandishing those flags.  Trump rallies are where you are as bound to find those morons as anywhere.

Wrong.

You can't just say something's wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. I can tell you there are tons of Confederate flags in rural PA, MD, NJ and upstate NY. Nowadays they're more likely to be accompanied by the blue lives matter and the no steppy on snek, but they haven't gone away.

Since PA, MD, NJ and NY =/= ND, I would say that your posts are not mutually exclusive.

Why would you say this in Minnesota? People there don't give a crap about Confederate statues.

Northern states are full of hicks who proudly display Confederate flags despite their own ancestors were shot by people brandishing those flags.  Trump rallies are where you are as bound to find those morons as anywhere.

Wrong.

You can't just say something's wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. I can tell you there are tons of Confederate flags in rural PA, MD, NJ and upstate NY. Nowadays they're more likely to be accompanied by the blue lives matter and the no steppy on snek, but they haven't gone away.

Trump didn't say this in rural PA, MD, NJ or upstate NY. He said it in Minnesota.
Why would you say this in Minnesota? People there don't give a crap about Confederate statues.

Northern states are full of hicks who proudly display Confederate flags despite their own ancestors were shot by people brandishing those flags.  Trump rallies are where you are as bound to find those morons as anywhere.

Wrong.

You can't just say something's wrong because you haven't personally experienced it. I can tell you there are tons of Confederate flags in rural PA, MD, NJ and upstate NY. Nowadays they're more likely to be accompanied by the blue lives matter and the no steppy on snek, but they haven't gone away.
I'm from rural Ohio and and used to live rural Minnesota and BRTD is correct. I'm having trouble remembering if i ever saw someone with the battle flag in the six years i lived in Minnesota. Whereas, whenever i visit family in Ohio i'll usually see the stars and bars all over the place. Quite frankly i don't think you can compare rural Minnesota to rural Ohio, Pennsylvania, or Indiana.

The original quote was "Northern states are full of hicks who proudly display Confederate flags." It didn't specify Minnesota or North Dakota.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2020, 03:58:58 PM »

RE: The Confederate Flag...

First of all, I adamantly oppose anyone flying that flag, let alone in the frickin' North.  It saddens me deeply that many culturally conservative and/or rural Northerners have felt alienated enough to adopt a flag of a group that their own culturally conservative and rural ancestors fought and died to defeat.  Primary sources are quite clear that there was no "urban-rural divide" with one's support for the Union ... heck, if anything, the rural areas of the North were more fervent about fighting the war to preserve the Union than cities like New York or Boston.

With that said, the flag sadly has come to symbolize "country life" or something of that nature to many, and I would hypothesize that the areas in which it is most popular in the North are in states with huge urban-rural divides?  I could see someone from rural New York who hates the influence NYC has on the state falling for that traitorous rag moreso than someone from rural South Dakota.

Lastly, let's remember that there are small regions of Illinois, Indiana (has been mentioned) and Ohio (has been mentioned) that probably historically felt more in common with the South than their own states.  Southern Illinois had segregated schools WAY past the rest of the state in the Twentieth Century, for example.  So, I would be less surprised at somebody in Southern IL flying that flag than I would at someone from rural Central IL flying it, though the latter does depressingly exist, too.

Correct. As everyone knows, Southern Indiana was the birthplace of the KKK's second iteration in the early 20th Century (iirc something like 15% of all adult men in select southern counties were members at its peak.) to
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2020, 10:33:24 PM »

Confederate flags up north are a thing. They are not common per say but they're there.

I've driven around in rural New England quite a bit, and while Confederate Flags up there aren't exactly common, you do see them. Early last year, I drove extensively in Nevada, Utah, and Arizona and oddly didn't see a single Confederate flag. They may be more common in rural OH, MI, & IN, but I've never driven there so I can't give a first-hand account.

My Ontario neighbour has a confederate flag on his back porch door.

Now that is strange.
Did this person once live in Southern US?
I've never spoken to him. His backyard is adjacent to the area behind my apartment where our little parking lot for tenants is.

The closest thing I can think of is that some strongly pro-gun Canadians might associate "2nd amendment" rights with southern heritage? Or he's a full blown racist (and/or an American immigrant).

People who rep the Confederacy proudly don't tend to be employable in highly skilled jobs, so they're not likely to emigrate. Not to say there aren't racists in all walks of life, but wealthier ones tend to keep it under wraps.
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