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« on: September 20, 2020, 01:37:09 PM »

Virginia and Arizona have to be among the craziest, and Utah one of the sanest. But what are some of the others?
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2020, 01:55:49 PM »

Kansas is both at the same time.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2020, 02:17:46 PM »

The Tennessee GOP used to be one of the sanest, especially by its region’s standards, until very recently, in part due to the influence of ancestrally Republican Eastern Tennessee. People like Howard Baker, Lamar Alexander, Bob Corker and Bill Haslam were emblematic of this.

Now it is sadly a generic crazy Southern Republican party, its transformation due to be completed shortly with the retirement of Alexander.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2020, 04:55:07 PM »

In terms of actual governance, New Jersey may well have the "sanest" GOP in the country. It's hard to see how Kean and Bramnick could lead the Republican in any other state. I fear this sanity has an expiration date: you cannot run today's Republican Party out of Westfield. You just can't.

As for the craziest: all states with large black populations and large amounts of evangelical whites who vote in reaction to their black neighbors. Georgia is a swing state now, but it's GOP is only slightly less loopy than that of Mississippi and Alabama. North Carolina's is similarly reactionary, while South Carolina long has more a blueblooded-caretaker style-GOP, but perhaps that went away from Haley's radicalism.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2020, 04:55:30 PM »

Crazy:
Pennsylvania  
Maine
Virginia
Georgia

Sanest:
Massachusetts
Vermont
Iowa
North Dakota
Washington
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2020, 06:03:57 PM »

In terms of actual governance, New Jersey may well have the "sanest" GOP in the country. It's hard to see how Kean and Bramnick could lead the Republican in any other state. I fear this sanity has an expiration date: you cannot run today's Republican Party out of Westfield. You just can't.

As for the craziest: all states with large black populations and large amounts of evangelical whites who vote in reaction to their black neighbors. Georgia is a swing state now, but it's GOP is only slightly less loopy than that of Mississippi and Alabama. North Carolina's is similarly reactionary, while South Carolina long has more a blueblooded-caretaker style-GOP, but perhaps that went away from Haley's radicalism.

True. I still think you can run the NJ GOP from Westfield. Westfield is the rich snobby Republican.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2020, 09:06:29 PM »

Crazy:
Pennsylvania  
Maine
Virginia
Georgia

Sanest:
Massachusetts
Vermont
Iowa
North Dakota
Washington

The people the VT GOP nominates are usually the sanest, but the party chair is a lunatic.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2020, 09:22:23 PM »

Crazy:
Pennsylvania  
Maine
Virginia
Georgia

Sanest:
Massachusetts
Vermont
Iowa
North Dakota
Washington

I wouldnt call the Georgia GOP, Nathan Deal was the gov. Brian Kemp isnt really insane but just really power hungry
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2020, 09:22:59 PM »

Sanest: MA, VT, UT

Craziest: VA, AZ, CA, GA, KY, AL, MS, SD, PA
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2020, 09:27:13 PM »

Sanest: Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, Tennessee( could be shifting), Indiana, New Jersey, New York,Maryland, Illinois, Florida(demographically speaking it should be a d state but it's not),Utah and Ohio

craziest or most evil: North Carolina, Qisconsin Kentucky, Alabama, Virginia, Missouri, Oregon, and Maine
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2020, 10:13:38 PM »

Crazy:
Pennsylvania  
Maine
Virginia
Georgia

Sanest:
Massachusetts
Vermont
Iowa
North Dakota
Washington

I wouldnt call the Georgia GOP, Nathan Deal was the gov. Brian Kemp isnt really insane but just really power hungry

Majorie Taylor Greene? Kelly Loffler? Doug Collins?

literally rigging the governors race in 2018?
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2020, 12:00:47 AM »

Sanest : Ohio (Despite being dominated by the gop at the state level since 1990 they are extremely pragmatic)

Insane : Alabama
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2020, 12:19:43 AM »
« Edited: September 21, 2020, 12:29:46 AM by Corbynite »

Nobody mentioned Oregon? They flee the state to avoid voting on issues and invite white supremacist militias to harass their opponents. Someone said Pennsylvania, that's a good pick. Their rising star is a deranged nutjob named Daryl Metcalfe. They benefit from extreme gerrymandering. (Edit: Just saw O.N.E. did say Oregon, my apologies)

Republicans are just bad no matter where they live, simple fact.
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2020, 01:12:18 AM »

Here in Illinois, the GOP used to be on the sane (or at least semi-sane) ledger, when Jim Edgar, George Ryan, Bob Dold, and Judy Baar Topinka were its faces. Nowadays, they're pandering more and more to the fringe Darren Bailey/Allen Skillicorn/Peggy Hubbard/Kurt Prenzler crowd.

Sane: Vermont and Massachusetts

Semi-Sane: Ohio, Utah

Insane: Too many to count, but Virginia, Arizona, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, South Dakota, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Colorado top the list.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2020, 01:27:53 AM »

Here in Illinois, the GOP used to be on the sane (or at least semi-sane) ledger, when Jim Edgar, George Ryan, Bob Dold, and Judy Baar Topinka were its faces. Nowadays, they're pandering more and more to the fringe Darren Bailey/Allen Skillicorn/Peggy Hubbard/Kurt Prenzler crowd.

Sane: Vermont and Massachusetts

Semi-Sane: Ohio, Utah

Insane: Too many to count, but Virginia, Arizona, Texas, Alabama, Georgia, South Dakota, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Colorado top the list.

A great Congressman and genuinely one of the nicest people I've ever met, in politics or otherwise.

Yeah, the ILGOP has had their fair share of screw ups. This year, it was allowing Ives and Oberweis to get the nominations in IL-06 and IL-14. Though it all started in 2010. Had they nominated Dillard, he would have easily won and likely governed just Baker, Hogan or Scott. He'd be serving his third term right now, with Republicans having a much better position in the legislature and possibly more seats in Congress.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2020, 08:17:15 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2020, 06:54:02 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2020, 10:03:04 PM by slothdem »

In terms of actual governance, New Jersey may well have the "sanest" GOP in the country. It's hard to see how Kean and Bramnick could lead the Republican in any other state. I fear this sanity has an expiration date: you cannot run today's Republican Party out of Westfield. You just can't.

As for the craziest: all states with large black populations and large amounts of evangelical whites who vote in reaction to their black neighbors. Georgia is a swing state now, but it's GOP is only slightly less loopy than that of Mississippi and Alabama. North Carolina's is similarly reactionary, while South Carolina long has more a blueblooded-caretaker style-GOP, but perhaps that went away from Haley's radicalism.

True. I still think you can run the NJ GOP from Westfield. Westfield is the rich snobby Republican.

Westfield is so Republican that it swung from Obama +3 all the way to Clinton +25! And Biden will carry it by more than 30.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2020, 12:11:29 PM »

Virginia’s GOP is politically suicidal compared to some of the other states.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2020, 06:33:42 PM »

Virginia’s GOP is politically suicidal compared to some of the other states.

If Hangar and Cox both run they'll split the sane vote and Chase will be the nominee. To avoid this, the mainstream conservatives in the state party should try to get a sentient AR-15 and Stonewall Jackson's corpse on the ballot.
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2020, 05:52:47 AM »

They could also add a Confederate Flag that can speak English.
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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2020, 04:21:10 PM »

The NY GOP is crazy too.

It's the NYPD can't do wrong party. Most police unions in NY are connected to the NYGOP.

They don't even want to acknowledge police brutality.

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« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2020, 04:00:26 AM »
« Edited: September 26, 2020, 01:56:52 PM by Josiah Quincy Did Nothing Wrong »


Absolutely not. It's probably closer to the KSGOP, where there's a wing of "sane conservatives" and far-right lunatics. Sununu is complicit in all of this, and essentially has to go along with the wing or face an actual primary challenge.

Bill O'Brien, the former leader of the conservative wing and Speaker of the House, had a supermajority. He governed the state like Brownback or Fallin, shepherding education cuts, and failing to pass RTW and gay marriage repeal. He also had the same my-way-or-the-highway attitude Trump had and burned his bridges to the point where lost his majority. Hell, the sane wing of the party refused to back his bid for the speakership in 2014!

While the guy's a has-been now, his ideas live on - especially since Frank Edelblut almost upset Sununu. Sure, the vote was split 3 different ways, but the fact that the grassroots powered New Hampshire State Rep past a rising star in the party and a long-time fixture in Manchester politics showed the power of the O'Brien wing. Even Sununu continued his self-admitted goal of suppressing the student vote, and appointed Edelblut to be Secretary of Education when he was blatantly unqualified for the position.

Sane figures like Steve Duprey have been ousted in favor of Trump loyalists. The new-look NHGOP is a who's who of the O'Brien wing of the party. It really says a lot that Al Baldasaro, who was considered a fringe right-wing extremist 10 years ago, is now a rising star who has ascended towards House leadership.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2020, 04:32:58 PM »

Nobody mentioned Oregon? They flee the state to avoid voting on issues and invite white supremacist militias to harass their opponents. Someone said Pennsylvania, that's a good pick. Their rising star is a deranged nutjob named Daryl Metcalfe. They benefit from extreme gerrymandering. (Edit: Just saw O.N.E. did say Oregon, my apologies)

Republicans are just bad no matter where they live, simple fact.
Pennsylvania republicans do support gun control(though maybe that's just philly people) and aren't as anti union
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2020, 10:37:27 AM »

OH used to be fairly sane, but it’s been growing increasingly Trumpy as of late.  There’s probably a smaller civil war coming up within the party if DeWine retires in 2022. 
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2020, 01:23:21 PM »

Montana has both a Sane and Crazy faction that are locked in an epic and bitter struggle that plays out in the primaries and makes the Dem-Repub rivalry look tame in comparison.
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