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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2020, 10:05:14 AM »

Trump's nominee gets passed with 50 votes + Pence breaking the tie.

I can't think of anything worse for this country than an outgoing VP breaking the tie on a SCOTUS nomination for a lameduck President.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2020, 10:08:11 AM »

Stop posting fake news about Republicans opposing the vote.

No Republican has yet said that they will oppose the vote.  Even Murkowski's statement from a few weeks ago doesn't count.

Republicans are monstrous hypocrites who care about power and nothing else.  What they said a few months or a few years ago doesn't matter.  If we're holding Republicans to their word, might as well put Mitch himself on that list too since what did he say in 2016?  Oh that's right, "you can't confirm a Supreme Court nominee in an election year."
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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2020, 10:08:44 AM »

Yet Biden was the VP at the time when Obama tried to do it.
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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2020, 10:11:00 AM »

Grassley? Is this real? I'd really be surprised if he opposes another Trump nomination before the election.
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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2020, 10:36:18 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2020, 10:53:22 AM by Solidarity Forever »

Grassley? Is this real? I'd really be surprised if he opposes another Trump nomination before the election.

He’s said in the abstract, before the situation actually manifested itself, that the Senate shouldn’t confirm anyone nominated in an election year.
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« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2020, 10:39:15 AM »

Grassley? Is this real? I'd really be surprised if he opposes another Trump nomination before the election.

He’s said in the abstract, before the situation actually manifest itself, that the Senate shouldn’t confirm anyone nominated in an election year.
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« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2020, 10:41:34 AM »

Grassley is old and its probably his last term but his grandson his speaker of the house in iowa.
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2020, 10:53:48 AM »

Grassley? Is this real? I'd really be surprised if he opposes another Trump nomination before the election.

He’s said in the abstract, before the situation actually manifest itself, that the Senate shouldn’t confirm anyone nominated in an election year.

Yes. He hasn’t said anything about the issue since her death.
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« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2020, 10:56:20 AM »

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/MLSPSC02Toplines_RGB.html#q33:_lack_of_hearings_for_merrick_garland
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Q33: lack of hearings for Merrick Garland
In February 2016, following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced that the Senate... Was not holding a hearing on the nomination the right thing or the wrong thing to do?
Frequency   Percent   Valid Percent   Cumulative Percent
Right thing to do   388   25   25   25
Wrong thing to do   1118   73   73   99
SKIPPED ON WEB   17   1   1   100
Q34: hypothetical 2020 vacancy
If there is a vacancy on the Supreme Court during the 2020 presidential election year and President Trump nominates someone what should the Senate do?
Frequency   Percent   Valid Percent   Cumulative Percent
Hold hearings   1024   67   67   67
Not hold hearings   488   32   32   99
SKIPPED ON WEB   11   1   1   100
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2020, 11:00:07 AM »

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/MLSPSC02Toplines_RGB.html#q33:_lack_of_hearings_for_merrick_garland
Marquette poll.
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Q33: lack of hearings for Merrick Garland
In February 2016, following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced that the Senate... Was not holding a hearing on the nomination the right thing or the wrong thing to do?
Frequency   Percent   Valid Percent   Cumulative Percent
Right thing to do   388   25   25   25
Wrong thing to do   1118   73   73   99
SKIPPED ON WEB   17   1   1   100
Q34: hypothetical 2020 vacancy
If there is a vacancy on the Supreme Court during the 2020 presidential election year and President Trump nominates someone what should the Senate do?
Frequency   Percent   Valid Percent   Cumulative Percent
Hold hearings   1024   67   67   67
Not hold hearings   488   32   32   99
SKIPPED ON WEB   11   1   1   100
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2020, 11:13:18 AM »

Four Reasons to Doubt Mitch McConnell’s Power

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But of course, the real rule in 2016 was "the good old rule ... the simple plan, that they should take who have the power, and they should keep who can." What McConnell did in 2016 was an assertion of brute power, and what he proposes in 2020 is another assertion of brute power. And so the question arises: Does McConnell in fact have the power he asserts?

The answer may be no, for four reasons.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/four-reasons-doubt-mitch-mcconnells-power/616416/
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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2020, 11:26:44 AM »
« Edited: September 19, 2020, 11:36:39 AM by pppolitics »

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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2020, 11:45:40 AM »

I get expecting Romney, Murkowski, and Collins to vote Nay, but why Grassley? IIRC, he only said that he’d recommend not holding a hearing a few months ago, but feel free to update me if there was a new development or statement.
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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2020, 11:54:14 AM »

I get expecting Romney, Murkowski, and Collins to vote Nay, but why Grassley? IIRC, he only said that he’d recommend not holding a hearing a few months ago, but feel free to update me if there was a new development or statement.

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"Well, I don't know what history will do and I don't care what history will do," Grassley said. "I'm just following what was established by the Biden Rule in 1986 and then emphasized by him in 1992.

"They set the pattern. I didn't set the pattern. But it was very legitimate that you can't have one rule for Democratic presidents and another rule for Republican presidents."

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/05/12/u-s-sen-chuck-grassley-supreme-court-seat-left-open-if-vacant-2020/604730002/
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« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2020, 12:56:59 PM »

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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2020, 01:44:56 PM »

Not enough time in Senate to confirm an appointee before the election

Which means we're having a lame duck battle.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2020, 02:36:26 PM »

Atlas megathreads on controversial subjects are always cancer.  There's always going to be some Republican f--kwit here to spam the entire thread with derailing arguments and posts that quote 200 other posts to ensure the thread is completely unreadable.

Point of order. How are we supposed to tell apart Republicans of the f--kwit variety and the "normal" type? Huh
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2020, 02:39:01 PM »


What's going to be McConnell's excuse for confirming a nominee during the lame duck?
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2020, 02:50:49 PM »

Atlas megathreads on controversial subjects are always cancer.  There's always going to be some Republican f--kwit here to spam the entire thread with derailing arguments and posts that quote 200 other posts to ensure the thread is completely unreadable.

Point of order. How are we supposed to tell apart Republicans of the f--kwit variety and the "normal" type? Huh

The f--kwits are the ones who keep posting the same argument over and over again, and then when anyone replies to them discrediting their argument they completely ignore it and divert the thread down some tangential rabbit hole.
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« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2020, 02:58:49 PM »


See, he offers this thing called "moral authority". Being a trump supporter I realized that concept is foreign to you, but you should look it up for use in both your political and daily life.
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« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2020, 03:00:51 PM »


What's going to be McConnell's excuse for confirming a nominee during the lame duck?

"We're still in charge so we can do whatever the f**k we want."
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« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2020, 03:19:35 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2020, 03:22:45 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2020, 03:25:16 PM »

If Biden wins and McConell nominates someone in the lame duck....that is vile. VILE.
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« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2020, 03:27:54 PM »

Bad sign.  That essentially tells us that McConnell has already locked up the 50 votes he needs if Collins is allowed to come out publicly against the fast-track confirmation.
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