12 yo suspended from school a week because he had a Nerf gun visable during Zoom class

[dead0man]

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A 12-year-old boy has been suspended for having a toy gun he never brought to school.

Isaiah Elliott attends Grand Mountain, a K-8 grade school in the Widefield District #3, just south of Colorado Springs.

On Thursday, Aug. 27, the seventh grader was attending on online art class when a teacher saw Isaiah flash a toy gun across his computer screen. The toy in question is a neon green and black handgun with an orange tip with the words “Zombie Hunter” printed on the side.

The teacher notified the school principal who suspended Isaiah for five days and called the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office to conduct a welfare check on the boy without calling his parents first.

“It was really frightening and upsetting for me as a parent, especially as the parent of an African-American young man, especially given what’s going on in our country right now,” said Isaiah’s father, Curtis Elliott, in an exclusive interview with FOX31.

Curtis’ wife Dani Elliott was equally furious with the school’s decision to notify her, only after deputies were on their way to the family’s home.

“For them to go as extreme as suspending him for five days, sending the police out, having the police threaten to press charges against him because they want to compare the virtual environment to the actual in-school environment is insane,” said Dani Elliott.

The Problem Solvers obtained the sheriff’s report and it confirms the teacher “said she assumed it was a toy gun but was not certain.”

Karen Teacher-that black child has a gun in his home, I must call the cops!

Karen Schooldistrict-oh, it's just a toy gun, A WEEK SUSPENSION FOR YOU SON!

[NewYorkExpress]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

[Sirius_]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

So you need a license for a nerf gun? That fires pieces of foam? And he should get suspended for having one IN HIS HOUSE? This was virtual school, how could he have hurt anyone?

[It’s so Joever]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

Hold up. What the literal f**k are you on?

[NewYorkExpress]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

So you need a license for a nerf gun? That fires pieces of foam? And he should get suspended for having one IN HIS HOUSE? This was virtual school, how could he have hurt anyone?

My opinion is all guns should be outlawed whether they are real or toys.

Nerf guns shouldn't exist.

[dead0man]

what about pop tarts eaten/broken into the shape of a gun?  what about hands bent in the shape of one?

[NewYorkExpress]

what about pop tarts eaten/broken into the shape of a gun?  what about hands bent in the shape of one?

If it can be mistaken for a gun, like a Nerf Gun, it should be outlawed. No reasonable person would mistake Poptarts in the shape of a gun as a gun.

As for finger/hand guns, those should be outlawed...but I'd understand if those bans were never enforced.

[SevenEleven]

“For them to go as extreme as suspending him for five days, sending the police out, having the police threaten to press charges against him because they want to compare the virtual environment to the actual in-school environment is insane,” said Dani Elliott.

Letting your child play with toys and distract other students when he should be engaged in a learning environment is insane, Ms. Elliott.

[Continential]

“For them to go as extreme as suspending him for five days, sending the police out, having the police threaten to press charges against him because they want to compare the virtual environment to the actual in-school environment is insane,” said Dani Elliott.

Letting your child play with toys and distract other students when he should be engaged in a learning environment is insane, Ms. Elliott.

The gun could have fell from the wall or the rack so stop coming to conclusions.

[morgankingsley]

That's such a over the top reason to suspend somebody

[Rand]

Thanks Obama.

[Santander]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

So you need a license for a nerf gun? That fires pieces of foam? And he should get suspended for having one IN HIS HOUSE? This was virtual school, how could he have hurt anyone?

My opinion is all guns should be outlawed whether they are real or toys.

Nerf guns shouldn't exist.

This is the best comment in this thread, anyways it's nice to see the usual libertarian suspects virtue signaling here to prove that guns are somehow good or something.

Forumlurker and Ninja are libertarians? And do you know what virtue signalling means?

[dead0man]

what about pop tarts eaten/broken into the shape of a gun?  what about hands bent in the shape of one?

If it can be mistaken for a gun, like a Nerf Gun, it should be outlawed. No reasonable person would mistake Poptarts in the shape of a gun as a gun.

As for finger/hand guns, those should be outlawed...but I'd understand if those bans were never enforced.

sadly, several kids have been suspended for finger guns

and there was that time a Maryland judge upheld a pop tart gun suspension on a 7 yo with ADHD

[Continential]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

So you need a license for a nerf gun? That fires pieces of foam? And he should get suspended for having one IN HIS HOUSE? This was virtual school, how could he have hurt anyone?

My opinion is all guns should be outlawed whether they are real or toys.

Nerf guns shouldn't exist.

This is the best comment in this thread, anyways it's nice to see the usual libertarian suspects virtue signaling here to prove that guns are somehow good or something.

Every boy in my neighborhood had a nerf gun at one point, so Nerf guns are mainstream

[Continential]

what about pop tarts eaten/broken into the shape of a gun?  what about hands bent in the shape of one?

If it can be mistaken for a gun, like a Nerf Gun, it should be outlawed. No reasonable person would mistake Poptarts in the shape of a gun as a gun.

As for finger/hand guns, those should be outlawed...but I'd understand if those bans were never enforced.

sadly, several kids have been suspended for finger guns

and there was that time a Maryland judge upheld a pop tart gun suspension on a 7 yo with ADHD

Jersey Cop supported arresting kids over lemonade stands because “they don’t have a license”

[John Dule]

First off, would they suspend a white child with a Nerf gun visible during a zoom class.

Second, I am a fan of treating Nerf weapons like real weapons under the law. The kid should have been suspended. The problem here is more, would they have suspended a white child for the exact same Nerf gun?

So you need a license for a nerf gun? That fires pieces of foam? And he should get suspended for having one IN HIS HOUSE? This was virtual school, how could he have hurt anyone?

My opinion is all guns should be outlawed whether they are real or toys.

Nerf guns shouldn't exist.

This is the best comment in this thread, anyways it's nice to see the usual libertarian suspects virtue signaling here to prove that guns are somehow good or something.

You two should team up to make a citizen's arrest on a kid for playing with army figurines sometime.

[lfromnj]

“For them to go as extreme as suspending him for five days, sending the police out, having the police threaten to press charges against him because they want to compare the virtual environment to the actual in-school environment is insane,” said Dani Elliott.

Letting your child play with toys and distract other students when he should be engaged in a learning environment is insane, Ms. Elliott.

I do agree online school should be kept to close as possible as real school. Aka don't play with your toys during school time. I don't know what the appropriate punishment would have been if he continued to refuse to listen as detentions are pretty hard rn. However calling the cops is 100% insane.

[Santander]

The only thing I was allowed to play with when I was a kid was an abacus.

[Sirius_]

“For them to go as extreme as suspending him for five days, sending the police out, having the police threaten to press charges against him because they want to compare the virtual environment to the actual in-school environment is insane,” said Dani Elliott.

Letting your child play with toys and distract other students when he should be engaged in a learning environment is insane, Ms. Elliott.

This wasn't treated as a kid not paying attention in class, it was treated like a real threat of violence.

[Sestak]

What about staple guns? Hot glue guns?

[NewYorkExpress]

What about staple guns? Hot glue guns?

Staple guns don't even look like guns, so no.

And only a completely irrational person would mistake a hot glue gun for a firearm.

They look nothing alike.

[Sestak]

What about staple guns? Hot glue guns?

Staple guns don't even look like guns, so no.

And only a completely irrational person would mistake a hot glue gun for a firearm.

They look nothing alike.

but you're saying NERF guns with those ridiculous color schemes can easily be mistaken for actual guns? And should be banned on that basis?

[SevenEleven]

“For them to go as extreme as suspending him for five days, sending the police out, having the police threaten to press charges against him because they want to compare the virtual environment to the actual in-school environment is insane,” said Dani Elliott.

Letting your child play with toys and distract other students when he should be engaged in a learning environment is insane, Ms. Elliott.

I do agree online school should be kept to close as possible as real school. Aka don't play with your toys during school time. However calling the cops is 100% insane.

I suppose the point I tried to make went over your head, or more likely, I should elaborate more so the reader doesn't have to reach their own conclusions. This bullsh**t article only made the news because gun laws are a manufactured political issue that are pumped to distract otherwise thoughtful people from more serious problems.

I had briefly mentioned this in a discussion with some users last night.  My partner is a teacher and some of her students can't even be there for class because they have to babysit three other kids with no parents home. One student had to leave to give a toddler a bath even. The level of education we are supplying during this pandemic is downright atrocious and the fallout from this will be significantly damaging for years to come. This sort of news doesn't get your click, it doesn't get your post, but it's much more important and something our country should really be focused on and prepared to find the appropriate way to deal with it. Articles like this getting publicized and shared is almost offensive. This isn't specifically directed at lfromnj, but if you have more time to worry about kids with nerf guns than the quality of their education, I really recommend taking a look in the mirror and thinking about whether or not this is who you want to be.

[NewYorkExpress]

What about staple guns? Hot glue guns?

Staple guns don't even look like guns, so no.

And only a completely irrational person would mistake a hot glue gun for a firearm.

They look nothing alike.

but you're saying NERF guns with those ridiculous color schemes can easily be mistaken for actual guns? And should be banned on that basis?

They look more like a gun than those examples, yes.

[Big Abraham]

To quote an Atlas institution:

You guys make bad posts.

What about staple guns? Hot glue guns?

Staple guns don't even look like guns, so no.

And only a completely irrational person would mistake a hot glue gun for a firearm.

They look nothing alike.

but you're saying NERF guns with those ridiculous color schemes can easily be mistaken for actual guns? And should be banned on that basis?

They look more like a gun than those examples, yes.

Case in point.